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MONEY: When is Enough . . . .Enough?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Rocket River, May 20, 2025.

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When do we say someone has enough Wealth?

  1. There is not limit - One should be able to acquire as much and use it to do whatever they want.

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  2. There is not Limit - but there should be constraints on how they use it

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  3. After 100 Billion dollars it is just Vanity

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  4. 10 billion - that's enough for several life times

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  5. Enough to Feed your family and live comfortable for life

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  1. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

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    I think in America . . .. in this world.
    We need to make a general consensus on what Enough Money is

    After a while .. . it's not about the money. it's about the ability to f*ck with other people
    The ability to impose your will on other people.

    At what point to we address this power discrepency?

    Rocket River
     
  2. Reeko

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    Why should there be a limit when all that money trickles down and helps the average American?

    look at how many people Elon Musk has helped for example

    y’all need to stop counting people’s pockets
     
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  3. Jugdish

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    Something like $50 million, I think.
     
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  4. DonnyMost

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    Money/wealth is how we signal, measure, and allocate value amongst each other as a species.

    You want to disrupt/distort that signal as little as possible, otherwise you end up punishing good behavior and rewarding bad behavior.

    If you provide value to society you should accrue wealth for that contribution, indefinitely.

    Now, if you think income inequality is the problem of our time and this answer is inadequate for you, I want you to understand that present day income inequality would not be so outrageous if we didn't practice capital controls the way we do.
     
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  6. Andre0087

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    Sarcasm right? Hard to tell these days...
     
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    trumpers want to make america great again by taking us back to the 1950's...but that was a time when the marginal tax rate was like 90% and the top 1% payed a tax rate of over 40%.
     
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    When you sign Shaq's paychecks.
     
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  9. Rocket River

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    I think Money is a bad measuring stick of ones value to society
    I think that we have reached a point where Capitalism is eating itself
    No new markets? Create one!!
    i.e. Overly medicate people so you can make a medication to counteract the negatives of the other medication rather than fix the original medication.
    Create things to break at a set time rather than make it last for ever . . . .etc.

    Look at Elon Musk, Epstein, PDitty . . .. enormous wealth gave them a level of insolation not only form ordinary people
    but from prosecution and the law. They could do almost anything . . .. if you are rich enough
    That is a problem that should be address. . . i was bad when banks were too big to fail
    now we have individuals that are too big to fail . . ..

    Wealth Acquisition does NOT equal GOOD BEHAVIOR
    and the concept that it is MUST STOP
    The ideal that the Wealthy are just BETTER PEOPLE doing BETTER THINGS is a dangerous myth
    More often than not. . .they are doing some of the BAD BEHAVIORS

    Which is we have to have UNIONS
    Because we cannot rely on them to "do the right thing"

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  10. Rocket River

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    Part of it

    Rocket River
     
  11. No Worries

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    Spending $50 million a year would be difficult but I would be willing to try.

    Bill Gates has pledged to give away something like 99% of his wealth. I feel sorry for his kids, since they will have to get by on a couple of billions for the rest of their lives.

    As a society we can ask ourselves what did the scions of the uber wealthy contribute to society to deserve their fortunes? Most certainly lack the skills to keep or grow their wealth.
     
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  12. GOATuve

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    Why worry about someone else's money?
     
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    BLM believes in money is never enough. They’re too dumb to go after whiteys only and that’s why the well ran dry.
     
  14. No Worries

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    Money buys power.

    What if a figurative Bill Gates Jr decided that he wanted to completely reshape the US into a far left or far right utopia?
     
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    George Soros says, "Hold my Kombucha"
     
  16. No Worries

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    FIFY.

    Both sides play the game.
     
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    True.
    I don't have a side.
    He was just the first name that popped into my head.
    I guess we could do it like mad libs, insert multi-Billionaire with hard leaning political views _________________________
     
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  19. GOATuve

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    It can. I guess it depends what power though. It's not easy to effect millions of people just based on wealth.

    I don't think that would be possible. You're talking about taking a country that's already divided and politically restructuring it
     
  20. Nook

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    Agreed - there are several issues being lumped into one.

    First, the idea that at some point enough money is enough is a valid argument. We limit people's ability to do many things because of social value in limiting it. Monopolies would be an example. The problem is that we will never get enough people to agree that there should be limits and what those limits should be. It is like asking people if "greed is bad", you MIGHT get a majority of people in 2025 to agree greed is bad, but as soon as you get into the minutia of what is greed, it all falls apart.

    As for income inequality - that is a legitimate problem, and the day of reckoning for that is coming. It happens every 75-100 years. There are also a number of ways to redistribute and improve income inequality.
     
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