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Houston Rockets are open to trading Alperen Sengun

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Brooklyn White, May 15, 2025.

  1. Hemingway

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    I don’t think that’s the case at all, but I think most reasonable fans think that Sengun can be traded for the right return. If we give it another year and he develops a 3 point shot then I wouldn’t trade him for most anybody outside of Jokic, Luka, or Ant.
     
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  2. Stephen_A

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    Calm down dude. Bro it is still regarded as 1-1 since there was no double. Sengun was guarded by one player. Two players didn’t at any time converge on him to take away the dribble drive in this video you showed. They simply played off their man to help the defender and take away driving lanes similar to a zone. This is simply the Warriors playing a man quasi zone scheme. But it certainly isn’t a double team or trap/blitz or hedging as you wrote.

    I said nothing about Draymond. I am simply responding to what you wrote which was inaccurate. You are confusing one on one man defense with players sagging as a double team. If this is the case then there’s no such thing as one on one defense since most teams play off their man from the wings or corner to help the primary defender. This is why the NBA changed its rules to allow zone because everyone was playing a quasi zone scheme anyway.
     
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  3. Patience

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    You mean the majority of Clutchfans posters who get dopamine hits by proposing random trades in the offseason? I don’t necessarily think this is a representative sample.
     
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    Outperen Sengone.
     
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  5. Stephen_A

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    yep they see no flaw with Sengun. Another great example was in the reg season late in the 4th where Sengun made that stupid unnecessary behind the back pass that resulted in a TO in a critical situation. That was absolutely unacceptable to do this in a critical situation yet Sengun only fans brushed it under the rug simply saying “everyone makes mistakes”. Not in a critical situation late in the 4th they don’t. Plenty other examples yet he is still regarded as “high IQ”. I’m all about calling a spade a spade and if we do it to some players then it needs to be done to all players.
     
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  6. cmoak1982

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    Typical Jalen only fans always come out the woodwork when it’s time to hate on the Rockets best player, Alp.
    Chef, Stephen and others.

    Some of the most irrational and clueless posters on the forum.
     
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  7. daywalker02

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    Seems odd that the posters dislike each other's players so much but Jalen himself always respected Alperen Sengün.

    That has to be said, if only his fans would be reasonable like that.

     
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  8. Stephen_A

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    They rarely doubled Sengun from what I saw. They certainly didn’t double him immediately to take away the drive. They didn’t trap him. Rockets didn’t run 51 screen using a PG so he certainly wasn’t blitzed or hedged. Only few instances they doubled him was with a delayed double as he makes his spin move in the post or goes up to score. That’s where Heild and those guys collapsed to take away the shot or strip the ball.
     
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    Iko is just a Stone mouthpiece. Stone is a contracts specialist masquerading as a GM.
     
  10. Stephen_A

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    or vice versa. Your post is biased since it does not address the hate, resentment, and bias on the other side. Rabid Sengun supporters constantly attack others as being clueless but yet post false information on here or they never cite what actually happened in the game or misinterpret what they watch. Let’s call a spade a spade instead of blindly defending or favoring one group over the other. There’s some Green fans that may be misrepresenting the truth or biased but many people like myself who aren’t Jalen only fans talk about deeper analysis and look at the factors and nuances for each situation including Jalen’s to try ro explain what’s happening yet we are attacked and judged by the deranged Sengun mob. You cannot sit there and write a post about respect when much of the agitation and emotionally charged negative responses are from these Sengun fans who mostly see few or no flaws in his game.
     
  11. cmoak1982

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    Player only fans are an issue.
    I want all our young guys to succeed. But there is also a very clear pecking order right now.
     
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  12. Stephen_A

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    Please stop with the mischaracterization. I have gone on record to say neither of these guys are great and both have a long way to go before becoming elite players. Both flawed both make bad reads and bad decisions consistently. This is why this team isn’t better. If both reached their stride it would be a different story.
     
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    Your post history says different.
     
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  14. Stephen_A

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    As I always say bring them up including yours. Bring up every interaction you have had with me. And either you do not know my history with some of these people or your bias led you to side with them. I know you have been disrespectful to me unwarranted and unnecessarily. So you are in no position to talk
     
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    Are you, of all people, crying victim?
    You are one of the nastiest people towards any dissenting opinion in the GARM.

    It’s very easy to see in your post history, the different levels of vitriol between Alp and Green. Even your compliments towards Sengun are backhanded.

    And honestly, besides calling your takes idiotic, I’ve never been rude to you. Just simply calling out your hypocrisy and biases.
     
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  16. Stephen_A

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    Bring them up. I just posted Several interactions or did you gloss over them in favor of those aligned with your views? As I said those who give out trash gets treated like trash by me. You included. This should be understood but yet you and people like you have no accountability.
     
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    Completely unnecessary and unwarranted. All I was doing was trying to have a conversation about basketball. Then I get responses like below. Why would I respect anyone like this? And most if not all the time I don’t talk or respond to any of your posts yet you always respond to mine and start fights.

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  18. Stephen_A

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    It often gets personal for no reason. My discussion is about basketball only but you made it personal

    You know what my problem is? Responding and getting into a long drawn out argument with insults back and forth. Yes your response is trash but perhaps not respond at all should be the new approach. You got personal see below:

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    Except you are not really trying to have a conversation - you have such a hate boner for Sengun you can’t stand seeing even the smallest bit of well-deserved praise for or really anything remotely positive people say about him, and you are justifying it by crying ‘You started it first’ as the mentally-12-year-old guy trapped in a grown man’s body you are. Newsflash: People think more highly of a significantly better player. How surprising, right? It’s one excuse after another disguised as ‘in-depth analysis’ when it comes to Jalen, but the dumbest, most superficial arguments recycled over and over when it comes to Sengun with you.

    Then again, and not saying that to offend you, cause there’s a good chance this is really the case: you don’t come across as a very mentally stable guy. You flood every thread with post after post replying to everyone individually - one would think you’d have the courtesy of just collecting all your drivel in one post but no, you have to exact the suffering in a slow drip. You’ve developed some unhealthy obsession with fighting some made-up injustice you’ve conjured up about how people treat two rich guys who don’t even know you exist. Even more hilarious is your constant grandstanding about being this great mighty keyboard warrior who fells everyone who dares to debate him, this most humble guy who’s the best knower of what he doesn’t know - the delusions of grandeur are truly the cherry on top.

    I’d recommend talking to a specialist - maybe there’s a pill for that. In the meantime I have some news for you: it’s not that people don’t have answers for you, you aren’t smart, you don’t provide some elite analyses - you are just exhausting and unimportant and are unworthy of people’s time. Don’t confuse people’s unwillingness to engage with you with their inability to do so.


     
  20. cmoak1982

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    Literally none of those are personal.
     
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