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Houston Rockets are open to trading Alperen Sengun

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Brooklyn White, May 15, 2025.

  1. astrosrule

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    Correct. I don’t think he will be a franchise level player. I do not believe in that archetype.
     
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  2. astrosrule

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    Ya maybe not, i have never seen harper play (or any prospect), i despise college basketball so i have no clue about any of these guys.
     
  3. conquistador#11

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    You win GM of the year...
    If you work for the Spurs. handing them another 2 championships in 5 years until Wemby fully breaks.
     
  4. Hemingway

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    It’s according on how you fill out the rest of the roster. I was actually suggesting this tongue in cheek since people are talking about trading Sengun just for Harper. I do have another trade to drive you crazy. Jalen and Sengun no picks for Giannis. Use picks and our other players not named Amen or Jabari for Adebayo and Naz or Collins. Amen, Giannis, Jabari, Naz, Adebayo.

    In the other trade, SA wins if Wemby stays healthy. A BIG IF.
     
  5. cmoak1982

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    No thanks. Alp is already better than Bam
     
  6. Hemingway

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    Alpi is better than Bam, but Bam is a better fit with Amen and/or Giannis. If Alpi develops a 3 pt shot I wouldn’t trade him for anyone other than Jokic or Ant. But that is a BIG IF. I don’t care if we don’t make a superstar move this year, but I am totally against running it back with FVV and not adding a shooter or two.
     
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  7. Brooklyn White

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    Oh no. They helped at the basket? Say it ain't so. This is what happens when your offensive game is made up entirely of layups and those spinning, slow-motion hooks from arm's length.

    The simple truth is Sengun had single coverage for most of the series. The Warriors looked at the Rockets' roster, circled Jalen Green’s name, and said, 'That guy’s not beating us.' So they let Sengun cook. And he did, or at least, he tried. He got the touches. He took the shots. And the Warriors were perfectly fine with it, because he didn’t make them pay.
     
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  8. evo8lover

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    It may have to be a 3 team trade with us getting him.
     
  9. Downtown Sniper

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    Guess you close your eyes and pretend the game stops when the other team have the ball, huh?

    Imagine truly believing something so idiotic as Sengun regressed.
     
  10. Brooklyn White

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    All you ever do is throw out insults. No debating, just punching.

    Sengun wasn’t good in the playoffs. That’s just the truth. His defense? Surprisingly solid. He held his own. Rebounding? Also solid. But scoring and shooting? A disaster. It was hard to watch and representative of a disturbing pattern with him.
     
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  11. jogo

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    Jalen had single coverage for most of the series. Watch the replays, it's apparent. Sengun played much better than Jalen.
     
  12. roslolian

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    Not sure if you realized but if other people are helping to defend you that means your teammates are open. It's called attracting double teams. Why is itg Sengun's fault when he beats his guy there are other guys at the basket? What about his teammates who are supposed to be guarded by the other players who are swarming Sengun, ever thought of that?

    Nobody can beat an entire team by themselves. Not sure why you think Sengun didn't make them pay he just didn't have enough help. Even Draymond gave Sengun his props.
     
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    When I'm talking to stupid people, I'll say that they are stupid people.

    When one of those stupid people come with hot takes that are absurd on their face, I'm not going to waste too much time on them...because there's not a point.

    When a person says that the ONLY player on the entire ****ing roster to play well in nearly every game "definitely didn't play that well", it's one of those instances.

    When a person says that the ONLY player on the entire ****ing roster to play well in nearly every game "definitely didn't play that well" in an effort to defend the worst player on the entire roster that played more than 10 minutes the entire series, it's one of the worst versions of stupid people coming with hot takes that are absurd on their face.

    How I respond always depends on what I am responding to, that's how conversation works.
     
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  14. Brooklyn White

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    Not enough help? Really? That's the story we're going with? Come on. Be serious.

     
  15. roslolian

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    The other people werent creating the shots in the half court thats why they have higher FG%. For example FVV did his damage from catch and shoot, and Tari Eason got his pts mostly in transition. Amen couldnt score from outside his shots were mostly off cuts for dunks and drives to the rim.

    Sengun was the point of attack offense he is the guy generating those open shots from everyone else. If he got injured for example who would create the offense when GSW starts going zone? Nobody else could score in isolation in the half court and Ime was too incompetent to create offense plays other than give the ball to Sengun and let him make something happen.

    You cant just look at FG% and say this dude did a much better job, for example Jabari shot 45% from 3 and shot 50% FG. But he got those looks mostly off the ball when he tried to iso and dribble lots of time he lost the ball or got it stolen.

    Sengun was the sole creator with Jalen having a rough time. If there was another guy who was the triple threat so GSW couldnt hedge and concentrate on Sengun maybe he'd have a higher FG.
     
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  16. jogo

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    You're just wrong on this one. Without Sengun, we lose this series in 4 or 5. Or put another way: If Sengun played liked Jalen, we lose this series in 4 or 5.
     
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    He scored at the exact same rate as Jalen. And the offense? Just as clunky, no matter which one was running the show.
     
  18. Brooklyn White

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    That’s the first I’ve heard of this new version of the story. The Rockets, it turns out, see the whole thing differently, especially when it comes to how the Warriors handled Jalen Green.

    https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6346932/2025/05/12/rockets-ime-udoka-amen-thompson-offseason/

    As it relates to Green, whose struggles against the Warriors were widely seen as a red flag when it came to his Rockets future, the internal view is quite different. As the Rockets see it, the Warriors’ choice to eliminate Green on the offensive end with double-teams and blitzes should have been punished to a far greater degree by his teammates. In that sense, there was a shared fault there that they’ll all grow from going forward.
     
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    It really feels like you're trying to intentionally misrepresent the facts to push a narrative. For starters, they didn't "look at the rockets roster and circle Jalen Green's name", which is why he scored 38 points in game 2. In the first two games they weren't trapping and blitzing him, they didn't care what he did. They adjusted after he did what he did in game 2, because that's what good teams do. They adjust.

    Secondly, you're really downplaying Draymond Green here to make Sengun sound like a scrub. Sengun was fantastic any time Draymond wasn't in the game. If you want to criticize him for not being able to score 1 on 1 against Draymond that's fine. I don't think that's a huge indictment considering Sengun's age, Draymond's experience, and Draymond being DPOY-caliber specifically because of his ability to guard big players. But he was getting doubled when Draymond wasn't in the game. And he was also scoring very efficiently when Draymond was not in the game. The main issue in the matchup was that the warriors have an incredibly talented defender in Draymond that was able to stop Sengun 1 on 1. The defensive gameplan would've shifted drastically had that not been the case.
     
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  20. Francis3422

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    Im gonna say. I like Alpi a lot, he is signed to a value contract and I think he will get better. I don’t know if he will ever develop the three-point touch, but I do think that some of the touch around the rim will come back. And I think the free-throw shooting will get a little bit better.

    I don’t remember if it was game six or seven but in one of them right at the end of the game he had a little opportunity to take a seven or 8 foot hook shot for the win or tie. This, is by no means an easy shot. It missed. And he was definitely our best player in the playoffs and I thought he played OK.

    my concern is that when it comes down to it I don’t think he’s tall or quick enough to ever be the guy that can generate the shot quality that we need at the end of a game and important moments consistently. I think he did well during the regular season, but I am worried about the playoff elements here.
     

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