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Solving Illegal Immigration

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by thumbs, Jun 15, 2018.

  1. DFWRocket

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  2. StupidMoniker

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    No, some dude named Steve Smith., who licensed Kid Rock's pseudonym.
     
  3. DFWRocket

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    So Tulsi Gabbards administration ordered the fabrication of evidence in order to justify the illegal imprisonment of Venezuelans

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/leak-shows-gabbard-goon-secretly-102159643.html


    top aide to Tulsi Gabbard quietly ordered officials to rewrite a damaging intelligence assessment so it couldn’t be “used against” Donald Trump.

    The emails from Joe Kent, the chief of staff to the director of national intelligence, were published by The New York Times on Tuesday, days after the newspaper reported that
    he had pressured officials to scrap a Feb. 26 assessment that found the Trump administration had no legal basis to deport Venezuelan migrants without due process.

    The original analysis reportedly contradicted the Trump administration’s claim that the Tren de Aragua gang is controlled by the Venezuelan government and has been ordered to commit crimes inside the United States.

    To shield the administration from political blowback, Kent allegedly urged edits to the report.

    “We need to do some rewriting” and more analytic work “so this document is not used against the DNI or POTUS,”

    “Let’s just come out and say TDA leaders are given sanctuary in Venezuela as their gang members commit horrendous crimes in America"
     
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    Trump just helped 17 Cartel family members get into the country . . . . . .. .. .
    [​IMG]

    Rocket River
     
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    This is not the way....

    DD
     
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    For what appears to be the first time, Donald Trump’s administration will “facilitate” the return of a “wrongfully” deported immigrant following a court order.

    A gay Guatemalan man referred to as “O.C.G” in court documents says he survived sexual violence and kidnapping in Mexico on his way to the southern border last year. But federal immigration authorities failed to screen him for a credible fear assessment before deporting him back to the same country where he was raped and held for ransom.

    Last week, District Judge Brian Murphyordered the administration to “facilitate” his return — echoing court orders in two other high-profile immigration cases involving “wrongfully” deported immigrants.

    “In general, this case presents no special facts or legal circumstances, only the banal horror of a man being wrongfully loaded onto a bus and sent back to a country where he was allegedly just raped and kidnapped,” Murphy wrote.
     
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    If only Trump the Traitor could be deported to some 3rd world country prison, to get a taste of his own medicine. He's committed much bigger crimes than the majority of the people he's labelling “rapists,” “savages,” “monsters” and “the worst of the worst.”

    Trump Administration Knew Vast Majority of Venezuelans Sent to Salvadoran Prison Had Not Been Convicted of U.S. Crimes

    The Trump administration knew that the vast majority of the 238 Venezuelan immigrants it sent to a maximum-security prison in El Salvador in mid-March had not been convicted of crimes in the United States before it labeled them as terrorists and deported them

    President Donald Trump and his aides have branded the Venezuelans as “rapists,” “savages,” “monsters” and “the worst of the worst.”

    Officials knew that only 32 of the deportees had been convicted of U.S. crimes and that most were nonviolent offenses, such as retail theft or traffic violations.

    The data indicates that the government knew that only six of the immigrants were convicted of violent crimes. More than half, or 130, of the deportees were not labeled as having any criminal convictions or pending charges; they were labeled as only having violated immigration laws.

    As for foreign offenses, our own review of court and police records from around the United States and in Latin American countries where the deportees had lived found evidence of arrests or convictions for 20 of the 238 men.

    ProPublica and the Tribune, along with Venezuelan media outlets Cazadores de Fake News (Fake News Hunters) and Alianza Rebelde Investiga (Rebel Alliance Investigates), also obtained lists of alleged gang members that are kept by Venezuelan law enforcement officials and the international law enforcement agency Interpol. Those lists include some 1,400 names. None of the names of the 238 Venezuelan deportees matched those on the lists.

    Hours before the immigrants were loaded onto airplanes in Texas for deportation, the Trump administration invoked the Alien Enemies Act of 1798, declaring that the Tren de Aragua prison gang had invaded the United States, aided by the Venezuelan government.

    DHS Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin largely repeated previous public statements. She insisted, without providing evidence, that the deportees were dangerous, saying, “These individuals categorized as ‘non-criminals’ are actually terrorists, human rights abusers, gang members and more — they just don’t have a rap sheet in the U.S.”

    https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-el-salvador-deportees-criminal-convictions-cecot-venezuela
     
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    Apparently
    1.illegal immigrant status
    2.race
    3.fake gender
    4.hate for Jewish people
    5.obesity
    are more important than the person’s crime(s)

    @basso
    @pgabriel
     
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    This has long been my issue.

    You can eliminate every tariff levied against Mexico, and if we paid these migrants legal or illegal a fair wage. We would be paying the same in the end.
    Higher labor costs = Higher goods costs.

    Do Americans as a whole feel sympathetic enough to shell out the extra cash for goods and services so these workers can have a normal standard of life.

    Keep folks working at below poverty level wages orpay a fair wage?
    That my friends is the 20,000-dollar question
     
    #6777 Kemahkeith, May 30, 2025 at 10:23 AM
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