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Jalen Green will be the Rockets' Numero Uno

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by kpdark, Jan 2, 2024.

  1. illwil29

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    This is a good honest assessment .
     
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  2. Dobbizzle

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    I actually think both narratives being peddled by the forum are wrong tbh, this one of yours and the other one where "GS knew he was the easiest one to take completely out of the game." Golden State/Kerr were just smart enough to realise that if you 1. Have the best 3 pt shooter on the planet and 2.Play against a team with literally 1 player who can get hot and become a volume 3pt beast (when he's on Jalen actually tends to shoot insane from 3, it's that when he's off he builds entire neighborhoods of bricks that brings his his numbers down) then all you have to do is keep hitting your 3's whilst preventing that one guy from going off and you win on math. But you know, you guys can keep arguing back and forth, I'm sure that's more fun.
     
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  3. SamFisher

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    That is an extremely simplified narrative of the GS series.

    I think we learned a lot about Jalen and Alperen during that series, most of it not great.
     
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  4. mfastx

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    Thanks for posting a good, measured and fair assessment as opposed to the emotional hyperbolic **** I've been reading on the boards since the season ended.
     
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  5. Corrosion

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    @gfab-babyboi
    @Mathloom
    @Roomba

    Are just shameless homers .... nothing wrong with that.
     
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  6. MystikArkitect

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    This is the same guy that repeatedly said Daishen Nix was a lottery talent only to eventually waive him. Stone's history when it comes to guards with "upside":

    1) Victor Oladipo - washed, traded
    2) Kevin Porter Jr - psycho, traded, waived
    3) Daishen Nix - fat, waived
    4) Jalen Green - ????

    Not even going to knock him for John Wall.
     
  7. roslolian

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    Really? I learned we can count on Alpi and unlike what most doubters are claiming his style of play works both in the playoffs and in the half court.

    We learned Jalen has work to do.


    Jalen and Sengun are only 23/22. They are nowhere near their prime so they are far from a finished product. Anybody thinking they have seen what they can do in their first ever playoff series is just extremely short sighted.
     
  8. roslolian

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    Stone is the same guy who you wanted fired and managed to build a top 2 seed in just 4 yrs while also getting yet another top 10 pick. Like how many Ls you need to take from Stone before you learned your lesson?

    Why cant you admit the guy has done an excellent job rebuilding this team and you hyper focus on crap that don't matter???
     
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  9. sealclubber1016

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    Jalen Green has 2 go to scoring tools. In 4 NBA seasons of high usage he has been completely unable to develop anything else.
    1.Using his athleticism to get off a contested jumper.
    2.Dribbling in a straight line drive to the basket off a quick first step.

    The slightest bit of defensive focus can... very easily, take away the second option. It's literally just shading one defender. He's had all this time to develop something, anything else, and he hasn't.
     
  10. daywalker02

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    Daishen was not just chubby, you could see that he was not more than a Gleague dude.

     
  11. Dobbizzle

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    There was a brief period in his "March Jalen" run where he'd started doing what Ja does and going up hard through/over the contact, but it was as fleeting as his shooting numbers from his big games. He's scared of doing it I think.
     
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    I have defended Stone. He laid out a plan and executed well on it. This off-season will show if he and his coach can take the next step. He has not had a successful trade other than moving up for Sengun. FVV’s contract was structured in a way that he could help us grow as a team. He was a good signing and the contracts for him were genius. I was supportive of both contracts from the beginning unlike other posters. Now we have to make some decisions and make trades other than just making draft picks and signing free agents. The rubber hits the road this off-season and we will see if Stone is the guy. If he extends FVV for anything other than a trade, he will be punting another season and make it much harder to re-balance this roster.
     
  13. DaDakota

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    It's not, it is thoughtful but it is wrong.

    Jalen didn't improve much this year at all, the team did, which helped mask some of his deficiencies but his numbers are as flat as ever.

    DD
     
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    AIN'T NO SHAME IN MY GAME!

    ...except when Cam made me look like a huge chump for supporting him (and Jalen made me look like a huger chump in the playoffs)

    I'll be back next season with a homerific vengeance.
     
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  15. roslolian

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    He has not had a successful trade? I guess trading Harden and the PHX trade only happened in my imagination then?
     
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    The Harden trade was successful imo. And the trade with the Nets to acquire the Suns picks and Dallas pick has looked good so far.
     
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  17. Dobbizzle

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    Oh I agree on both points, i was just stating I think it's more likely that that was the motivation for why they shut down Green. It was neither that Green was our star they needed to shut down or our weak link that was easy to shut down. I think it just makes sense mathematically when you look at it that it's a sound strategy because we have nobody else who's capable of going off in the same way and keeping up with their distance shooting. Alpi's the better player, but you can't beat Steph's shooting with low-post banging, it's literally the entire reason the NBA is the way it is now lol. All the Warriors really did is remove the guy that gave us any chance of keeping up with the modern game, and we were left with a team and style that the Warriors solved already to become a dynasty - everybody just forgot that's how they did it in the first place...
     
  18. roslolian

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    He is an 80% ft shooter and now a 35% 3 pt shooter.

    He played like crap in the playoffs but no need to make **** up.
     
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    Not only that in the 5 yrs Rox have been drafting they have drafted 9 times in the first round. I dunno what that dude is saying there has been no successful trade I guess all those picks just appeared outta nowhere lmao

    Stone also traded for Steven Adams.
     
  20. MystikArkitect

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    Jalen was the starting shooting guard on a team with year 2 Amen Thompson, healthy Steven Adams, and a somewhat healthy Tari Eason.

    Any praise Jalen gets for what he did this year is little more than a participation award.
     

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