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[Movie] Sinners - Ryan Coogler & Michael B. Jordan

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by GRENDEL, Jan 28, 2025.

  1. OkayAyeReloaded

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    Saw it yesterday, it was excellent and unique actually. I can see it being a vampire or cult classic like Dusk til Dawn etc. I would say it's arguably much better than Dusk til Dawn which I consider a vampire classic.

    The music was great as well as the visuals as a period piece. Jordan and Coogler nailed an original film IP which is rare recently.
     
  2. dmoneybangbang

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    Pretty good movie… definitely something you’ll want to see in theaters.

    It was kind of like Dusk until Dawn except you know the plot twist coming. Obviously the musical aspect of it was pretty unique and really made the movie. Also good characters and dialogue.
     
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    I hate that I saw preview with the plot twists. I need to forget about this movie before watching it.
     
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    spoilered for people who haven't seen it and also for clutch, to keep Hangout PG. I was realizing all the references to cunnilingus in this movie and I'm wondering if Coogler is doing some work with it. Mary mentions Stack did it, Stack tells Sammy to try it, Sammy tries it, and I think there is at least a fourth reference too but I can't remember what it was. Am I missing any? That many references makes it feel intentional, but I'm not sure what it is intending.
     
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    If only the B Jordan twins would have sucked each other off he'd truly be at peace (tinman). That's why they call him tinman. Vampires sucking dudes make him rock hardt.
     
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    Sinners roared to an impressive domestic opening weekend that exceeded most projections, riding high on immediate word-of-mouth, its star power at all levels of the production, and near-universal acclaim on popular movie review aggregators like Rotten Tomatoes. Sinners opened with just over $48 million across more than 3,300 theaters, which is among the most successful true horror openings ever. However, it earned another $45 million domestically in its second three-day weekend, a drop of just 6%, which is essentially unheard of; a typical box office second weekend drop is between 40-50%.
     
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    Yeah, but is it any good? Serious question.
     
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    A plantation owned by blacks "down the bayou" was mentioned. What were they referencing? Historically.
     
  10. Reeko

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    there’s the usual plot conveniences that you’ll get in any horror movie, and some might think it starts a little slow if they’re only there for the vampires

    Coogler did an excellent job blending together different genres…it’s a like a period piece, gangster film, horror movie, and musical combined into one

    I enjoyed it…9/10 for me

    I hadn’t been to the theater in almost a year until seeing this movie, and I didn’t regret it at all…would definitely watch again and will when it’s available on streaming
     
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    I am going next weekend, my sister LOVED it.
     
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    Ryan Coogler’s “Sinners” is on a pace to collect at least $330 million in worldwide ticket sales for Warner Bros. by the end of its run, several box office analysts said, a haul that would put it in Hollywood’s horror hall of fame.

    Ticket sales on that level, for instance, would be on a par with those for Jordan Peele’s Oscar-winning “Get Out,” which took in $256 million globally in 2017, or $337 million when adjusted for inflation. Among original horror movies, “Sinners” would be the biggest since 2018, when “A Quiet Place,” directed by John Krasinski, took in $440 million in today’s dollars.

    In terms of franchise-starting horror films, “Sinners” would rank higher than John Carpenter’s original “Halloween,” which generated $47 million in 1978, or an adjusted $241 million. “Sinners” would be in line with Wes Craven’s first “Scream” ($358 million) and far above James Wan’s “Saw” ($180 million) and Oren Peli’s “Paranormal Activity” ($293 million).

    Mr. Coogler didn’t conceive of “Sinners,” an audacious Southern vampire fantasia set in the 1930s, as part of a series. “I wanted the movie to feel like a full meal: your appetizers, starters, entrees and desserts — I wanted all of it there,” he told Ebony magazine. “I wanted it to be a holistic and finished thing.”


    But “Sinners” could easily start one if Mr. Coogler changed his mind, giving him immense power in Hollywood in general and at Warner Bros. in particular.

    “What is impressing everyone is how deeply the movie is connecting and bringing audiences back for repeat viewing and expanding the audience,” David A. Gross, a film consultant who publishes a newsletter on box office numbers, said on Friday.

    “The movie is going to be worth a fortune in streaming,” he added. “Sinners” will exclusively appear on Max, the streaming service affiliated with Warner Bros.

    Warner Bros. declined to comment. The studio’s internal estimates show “Sinners” finishing between $300 million and $330 million.

    “Sinners” was an instant success when it arrived in theaters in mid-April. Warner Bros. initially estimated that it had collected $46 million in the United States and Canada during its first weekend, later revising the figure to $48 million.


    Even so, it was not immediately clear when or if “Sinners” would make money for Warner Bros., which spent at least $150 million to make and market the film. As the creative force behind the “Black Panther” and “Creed” franchises, Mr. Coogler, 38, was a highly sought-after filmmaker. To win the rights — multiple studios bid on the project — Warner Bros. agreed to give Mr. Coogler a cut of gross ticket sales (before a studio deducts costs).

    And theaters keep roughly 50 percent of the gross.

    Several analysts said on April 20 that for Warner Bros. to make money, “Sinners” would need to attract substantial crowds in the weeks ahead. Its ability to do so was a question: Most movies have a difficult time drawing continued attention from consumers these days, even if they have terrific reviews.

    “The trajectory for this film was predicted by no one,” Paul Dergarabedian, a senior media analyst at Comscore, which collects box office data, said in an email. (Mr. Coogler’s fans would most likely beg to differ.)

    Mr. Dergarabedian noted that domestic ticket sales for “Sinners” had declined only 5 percent from its first weekend to the second, one of the smallest such declines on record for a movie arriving to more than $35 million. Only James Cameron’s “Avatar” (2009) ranks better, with a 2 percent decline.

    In its zeal to work with Mr. Coogler, Warner Bros. also agreed to relinquish its ownership of “Sinners” after 25 years. Mr. Coogler, who wrote, directed and produced the movie, would then own it.

    Some rival film companies were shockedthat Warner Bros. would give a film away, even after 25 years. Other studios, however, have occasionally made similar deals for other filmmakers, including Quentin Tarantino, who first secured “ownership reversion” in the 1990s while making films for Miramax.

    Mike De Luca, a chief executive of the Warner Bros. Motion Picture Group, called industry consternation over the ownership aspect of the deal “ignorant and laughable” in an interview with The Hollywood Reporter published on April 22.

    Mr. Coogler “made a pretty effective case for this movie, especially with its themes of Black ownership,” Mr. De Luca told that trade publication. “Frankly, we’re proud to be able to give it to Ryan.”
     
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    I really dug SINNERS the second time,the movie it actually reminded me of a lot was Demon Knight
     
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    Went and saw this on Sat and man it did not disappoint............even though I KNEW the 2 characters were the same, it didn't seem like they were......great plot and even better story. I don't mind paying a tad more for food and drink but dam, I got a crappy ass Luke warm hot dog and a Reg size coke for $18.62..........that's just ridiculous
     
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    lol movie theaters out here scamming with their food prices…that’s why I bring in my own Chick-fil-A
     
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    Do you think theaters are making a killing? They are dying a slow and excruciating death. If you care at all, don’t do that.
     
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    charging $20 for a heat lamp hotdog and a drink is devious behavior…I’m against price gouging
     
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    Not sure where you're getting your info in 2025, but the movie theater business is a growth market with roughly 5% growth per year.

    Part of the thing with my kids is buying popcorn and drinks. It's an event. But I wouldn't buy a meal there.
     
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    It’s encouraging to see a bounce back from the COVID nightmare. My anecdotal evidence comes from people I know who work in the industry (here and in Europe). I guess the reality is just that I would rather not live in a world without cinema.

    …and yes popcorn is a mandatory purchase at theaters.
     
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    Who buys a hot dog at the theaters ? Also who throws in a potential spoiler in the middle of complaining about said hot dog ? Congratulations on figuring out that food and beverage has a high mark up at the theaters. Next you are going to enlighten us that the price of beers at a ballpark are crazy high.
     
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