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2025 Season Astros General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Snake Diggit, Mar 28, 2025.

  1. Tomstro

    Tomstro Member

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    Chas is tradable. Urquidy was not. That’s the difference.
     
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  2. IdStrosfan

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    I agree on that point. Though I think any player he brings back woukd be much much less valuable than he is.

    What I don't agree on is that the Astros should trade him as a favor so he gets some playing time because he has done so much for the team in the past.

    He is probably 50th among Astros in playoff contributions and not in the top 100 of regular season Astro players.
     
  3. Tomstro

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    Game saving beautiful catch in the WS?

    Home run off G Cole?

    50th?
     
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  4. IdStrosfan

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    I just guessed. I did no research on it.

    Just looked= 144 hitters and 99 pitchers have appeared in the post season for the Astros.

    50th is 74th percentile
     
  5. IdStrosfan

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    83 players have 10+ PAs.

    He's 18th in R, 21st in RBI, 33rd in wRC+

    To be fair, probably closer to top 40.

    This looks like a rabbit hole. . .
     
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  6. Tomstro

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    He is a WS winner so automatically hops anyone who isn’t
     
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  7. IdStrosfan

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    Legitimate criteria.

    I don't agree.

    I would say Lance Berkman is ahead of Derek Fisher.
     
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  8. IdStrosfan

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    I'm starting with

    All non-Pitchers w/ 10+ PAs = 78 players

    All pitchers w/ 3+ IP = 73 players.

    151 candidates
     
  9. sealclubber1016

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    I've been patient with Rodgers because his quality of contact has been so good this season.

    But if that improved contact comes at the cost of an absurd whiff rate what's even the point. I'm not sure how much longer the leash can be.
     
  10. Wulaw Horn

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    2 great Framber starts in a row.
    his first 8 games last year are almost an exact mirror image of his first 8 games this year. Then he ripped off really freaking awesome performances for the rest of the year.
    if that goes like last year and Hunter Brown stays really good, even if not completely dominant this team will win a shitload of games
     
  11. IdStrosfan

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    Ask your buddy if Framber is tradeable.

    Of course, Now the Astros can't afford to, lol.
     
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  12. Tomstro

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    Well chas is ahead of Berkman as far as the playoffs go. Fisher lol- he wasn’t a starter but he still scored a game winning run in the WS and Berkman did not. Nobody before 2017 can say that.

    This is about the playoffs.

    I see what you’re trying to do but Chas was a big part of that 2022 team down the stretch and in the playoffs. We have 2 WS winning teams, he was a starter on one of them.
     
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  13. IdStrosfan

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    You seriously are saying Chas has been better/more valuable than Berkman in the post season?

    We're you a fan of the Astros in the early 2000s? Do you know/remember how good Betkman was?

    I realize Chas was a starter on a W S. winning team and had some great moments, but baseball is too much of a team game to make winning a W.S. a qualifier for any players overall level or ranking.

    Berkman 26 RBI and .992 OPS in 29 games.
    Chas 9 runs, 8 RBI and .687 OPS in 33 games

    I completely disagree that Chas is ahead of Berkman just because he was on a W S. winning team. Berkman did everything he could to help his teams win.
     
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  14. Tomstro

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    Yeah but a WS victory is everything. It just is. Berkman was a star. Chas is a role player. And I’ve been watching the Astros since 1980.

    I think we all know who we'd rather go into battle with.





    chas
     
  15. cmlmel77

    cmlmel77 Up all Night Watching Houston Sports
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    LOL. I assume this is a joke. Literally no one (I hope) would pick Chas over Berkman to ‘go into battle with.’ As you said, one is a star and was the only clutch player on those 90s teams. The other is a streaky player with the upside of ‘pretty good’. Other than each one liking a little extra banana pudding on occasion, they are not comparable.
     
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  16. No Worries

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    Berkman has a WS ring and arguably should have been the MVP of that WS.
     
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  18. Tomstro

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    No?
     
  19. IdStrosfan

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    I have started the process of my rankings. All time best/valuable postseason Astros.

    Nowhere close to complete, but I am compiling data and totalling my personal rankings.

    This is going to be a weeks long process.

    So far: hitters career stat rankings (nothing else added in yet)

    1) Altuve 207
    2) Bregman 193
    3) Beltran 185
    4) Berkman 178.5
    Springer 178.5
    6) Correa 174.1
    7) Gurriel 165.5
    8) Alvarez 163
    9) Brantley 152.5
    10) Tucker 118

    More to come.

    Maybe I should start/find a separate thread.
     
  20. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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