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End of American Dominance?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Invisible Fan, May 7, 2025.

  1. snowconeman22

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    Yes, i think its over

    Sharks smell blood in the water.

    We've been putting old, feeble minded leaders in the whitehouse for the last 10 years.

    Trump 2 might be the worst president weve had since franklin pierce, or Buchanan.
     
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  2. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Trump is a Russian asset he is tasked with ending our dominance, he is a traitor and should be dealt with as such.

    DD
     
  3. Space Ghost

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    Another post from DaDa, encouraging violence and death to our president.

    Careful bud. CECOT is nothing to joke about and its often a one way trip. Best to go underground for the next 4 years and keep your mouth shut.
     
  4. Invisible Fan

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    I didn't say all Americans, please read again.

    Whatever MAGA GOP has done, they own the presidency, both congresses, and a similar domination of core states that are numerous enough to resist federal mandates and even disobey supreme court orders. 3 decades ago, the first half of your reply could've been used for Fox News.

    As for the last half, Americans liked 45's economy right up to covid. Dem shills will claim 45s policies were wholesale disasters due to covid destroying the status quo, but Americans definitely used 2019 life as a point of comparison in 2024.
    https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2020/02/07/views-of-nations-economy-remain-positive-sharply-divided-by-partisanship/

    It appears the "media war" is full of echo chambers even if most working class Americans don't have time to deeply care about political news.

    P.S plz watch like n smash dat subscribe to OP.
     
  5. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Trump's tax cuts went into law at the end of 2017. This stimulus fueled a REAL increase in tax receipts, as tax receipts rose from 3.3 trillion in 2017 to a peak of 4.9 trillion in 2022. Trump's tax cuts were the FUEL that powered America's economic engine. Had Biden not increased spending by 2 trillion per year, we would have had a balanced budget. Tax receipts caught up to where spending should have been... had Biden not spent like a drunken sailor. Those are the hard numbers, and hard facts for Democrats to grapple with.

    And we know the result of all of that discretionary Democrat spending... RAMPANT INFLATION that brought the working class to its knees... and led to the Democrats being voted out of office at every federal level.

    Facts matter.


    GOOD DAY
     
  6. astros123

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    Year over year tax receipts

    2017- 3.32
    TRUMP SIGNS TAX CUTS
    2018- 3.3 trillion
    2019- 3.46 trillion

    Congratulations we spent 3 trillions in tax cuts to go from 3.32 to 3.46. We increased our tax receipts by .14 while spending more than 20x of that. Now I know why you morons worship a guy whos filed bankruptcy 7 times

    Tax receipts went up by record levels in 2021/22/23 bcz we passed massive industrial policy + hired more IRS agents which led to tax compliance.

    Do you ever get tired of being exposed like a moron that we all know you are?
     
  7. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    You can't possibly believe that the effectiveness of tax cuts can be measured in a single year. That's insane.

    Trump's tax cuts were rocket fuel for the economy, and led to tax receipts rising to levels that should have balanced the budget... Had Biden not spent like drunken sailor and added $2 trillion per year to government spending. That's how bad he was -- and the inflation followed. Which part of this do you dispute? Do you dispute that inflation occurred? Do you dispute that tax receipts rose $1.6 trillion in the years following Trump's tax cuts? Do you dispute that Biden added $2 trillion per year to government spending?

    These are all facts. Facts that completely invalidate your argument. But facts matter, friend. And thank God the American public was savvy enough to vote Biden/Harris out of office based on their review of the facts. So much proof for your to gnaw on. Eat it up and educate yourself.


    GOOD DAY
     
  8. astros123

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    MAGA cultists now want to take credit for the Biden economy. Tax receipts skyrocketed in 2021 because we had real GDP growth of 5.7%. More than double of any growth year that happened under Trump. When the economy grows so does the tax recipients as people are earning more.

    You do not get to suddenly take credit for tax receipts that happened under biden. Tax receipts were stagnant under Trump and when you take into consideration gdp growth tax recipients as a share of gdp were NEGATIVE.

    Stop trying to debate me. You have sincerely never won once. Stop embarrassing yourself and quit posting
     
  9. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    2021 was COVID bounceback -- everyone knows that. You don't get to count 2021's annual rate of growth when blue state governors shut down their economies in 2020. Of course the economy grew -- it was hobbled the year before from the Democrats' COVID response.

    why do liberals try to deceive at every turn? I personally believe it's because they do not have a moral code that they live by. Few are sincerely religious and they just jump from progressive cause to progressive cause to fill that hole in their lives. But they have no problem with divorce, abortion, lying, etc... because they do not adhere to any type of moral code other than consumerism, selfishness, and main character syndrome / hero complex. No wonder so many liberals go to therapists!


    GOOD DAY
     
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  10. astros123

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    Blue state governors were the only ones who shut the economy down? I wonder who was in charge of the CDC in 2020 who ordered the country to shut down? Who issued the 6 feet rule?

    The economy grew faster in 2023/24 than in 2019 at the peak of the Trump economy. You're in a cult
     
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    But it does apply to all Americans as media crosses state lines obviously.

    MAGA certainly pulled off the populism schtick first and built upon what the GOP was already doing before Trump with things like REDMAP. Also timing is important as well... riding the political wave of inflation as a lot of incumbents globally were knocked down too during this election cycle.

    Which is why inserting right wing politics into lifestyle YT content creators and podcasters was shrewd from a political sense.

    At any rate, I've watched around ~33% of the video you posted (just tough to fit an hour long YT interview into one's schedule) but it's just seems to me another video describing how these supercycles rise and fall. I said earlier, I think the simple answer is we're firmly in the "we went too business friendly" phase.

    Get those notifications when OP drops "can america's dominance defeat a silverback gorilla".
     
  12. ThatBoyNick

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    RIP American dreams

     
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