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The offical Trump Tariff thread

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, Feb 1, 2025.

  1. Nook

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    Exactly - and whether that is someone that is sincere in class warfare or not will remain to be seen .... but it will be some version of Huey Long that will be exceptional at leveraging class as a power play.
     
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    You mean Goebbels.
     
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    He's certainly eying 2028 to see how far this circus runs. He's not angling for your support or my support. Trump is juggling all of these initiatives without a solid goal and seeing if it works. If not, he lets it flop and throws up something else. I guess it's start-up like or something.

    This will be the last-ish time I'll mention this as I'm getting sick of reading it myself. He said a lot of the things he'd throw up(sic) on the campaign trail to anyone who would listen and then the rapist won the popular vote. It's not even the first time he's done this, but libs are reacting like it is.

    It's not our side's job to hate and hope his solutions fail, more like understanding the problems he sold to the swaths of formerly Dem state voters who believed him. Many of our experts on the liberal side are still in full denial, like whitewashing China's end of the trade war as if they smell like roses. That world looks like it's on it's last throes whether internationally or domestically. The working class wants less thinky and more do-y answers.

    Our current approach will not win over the working class. The "90 day reprieve" that China won is so bubba won't see ungodly price hikes while the other deals get hashed out.

    Smart people wanted the TPP approach - Invite friends to wine n dine at a ski resort, lay out issue, talk solutions, hash out deals. Those TPP talks started on Obama's first term and ended right before his last. Has climate change agreements been fruitful with and without the US? I still want some kind of high speed rail in California. It felt damn proud when I voted for it...

    We've been living the last 4 months like it's been 4 years. Paycheck to paycheck workers probably didn't notice what he ****ed up on or what the stock market has been doing. More importantly, they havent cared much about deporting citizens, ignoring scotus orders or the trial balloons of suspending habeus corpus. All I see here is extreme trench digging and scoffing at courting back the labor vote. They see nothing wrong with upping welfare, throwing money at a "problem", then laughing at The Poors who "voted against their own interests" when Donny takes it away.

    What does the American Dream mean anymore to these people?

    Well figuring and doing are two different actions.

    Barring a true fascist take over, I'd have to see relocations to Europe to believe it. I read somewhere that Europeans have around 5T ish in investments in the US. They can totally withdraw it to build up their own continent. More like incontinence.
     
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  5. Nook

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    To be clear - I am not moving to Europe short of the elimination of fair elections. I meant in the context of a corporation that wants to invest - it is hard when you don’t know what is happening from one day to the next.

    As for the Democratic establishment- they are blind fools and that is why I am certain they will all be put out to pasture. There are some newer democrats that get that this is a class war and not a Camp David meeting.

    The establishment is trying very hard to dampen Fetterman and AOC- and they are aligned with the extreme wing of the Palestinian protestors.
     
  6. astros123

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    Whats up with your ridiculous tales lately. How is the "establishment" trying to dampen AOC when she's sitting on the 2nd most powerful committee in congress? It's the establishments fault that Fetterman refuses to wear a seat belt while riding on a plane? Is it the establishment fault that Bernie is making fun of folks who wait in line at the airport ?



    Progressives have no idea how to build coalitions and then run to the media crying how people dont wanna support them. Give me a break
     
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    Trump, and the tariffs, are driving change for American workers and American industry. Yet another massive investment in AMERICA. The stock market, which has powered higher over the last couple of weeks, is waking up to the benefits of Trump's policy and leadership.

    Exclusive-Ketchup maker Kraft Heinz investing $3 billion upgrading US manufacturing

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-ketchup-maker-kraft-heinz-113259978.html

    NEW YORK (Reuters) -Kraft Heinz is spending $3 billion to upgrade its U.S. factories, its largest investment in its plants in a decade, even as executives say consumer sentiment is at its second-lowest point in 70 years, and it has cut sales and profit forecasts.

    The upgrades will help lower costs by making the plants more efficient, which in turn may help offset President Donald Trump's tariffs, which factored into the company's decision to make the investment, said Pedro Navio, Kraft Heinz's president of North America, in an interview with Reuters.
     
  9. Reeko

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    Fetterman is damaging his own reputation all on his own by sucking off MAGA

    Fetterman’s approval was at -17 among Democrats before any of those recent hit pieces came out
     
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    Dems are on the verge of having their own tea party movement…people are tired of the weak and spineless “when they go low, we go high” reach across the aisle while getting punched in the nuts bullsh*t

    when they go low, that’s when u take the opportunity to stomp their brains out

    all this bringing a plastic fork to a gun fight is over and done with…people are sick and tired of that sh*t
     
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    MSM is now running stories about the Trump Tariff Pause … idiots … like 30% tariff floor with China is a tariff “pause”.
     
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    More efficient as in less payroll. LOL
     
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    While the RMB alone won't displace the dollar's dominant position, central banks worldwide are increasingly diversifying their reserves away from the dollar in response to perceived risks in the US bond market. This gradual shift favors a basket of alternative currencies and encourages non-dollar trade settlement mechanisms. Nevertheless, the dollar will maintain its significant role in international finance and trade for at least the next decade due to its liquidity and established financial infrastructure.
     
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    @Nook has a weak spot for Fetterman and can't see reality for what it is. Nobody is hurting Fetternans brand other than himself. He's screaming at his staff and fighting with his fellow democrats in the senate. The "establishment" isn't forcing Fetterman to act like a *******
     
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    Fetterman has become a terrible and erratic person who is spiraling right before our eyes
     
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    Who flies a commercial flight and refuses to put a seat belt on? The amount of utter white privilege is insane. If that was a black senator who refused to put his seat belt everyone would be calling him a thug and gangster. If its a white senator then hes just asking questions
     
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    Walmart, the world’s largest retailer, warned that is not immune from President Donald Trump’s tariffs. It plans to raise prices on some items as Trump’s global trade war sends the company’s costs higher.

    “We will do our best to keep our prices as low as possible but given the magnitude of the tariffs, even at the reduced levels announced this week, we aren’t able to absorb all the pressure given the reality of narrow retail margins,” Walmart CEO Doug McMillon will tell analysts Thursday on an earnings call. Walmart sent out several prepared remarks from executives before the call.

    Walmart said the price hikes will begin later this month.

    “I’m concerned that consumer is going to start seeing higher prices. You’ll begin to see that, likely towards the tail end of this month, and then certainly much more in June,” Walmart finance chief John David Rainey said in an interview with CNBC Thursday.

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    Walmart should expect that death threats are now inbound .
     
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    Apple depends on several Asian suppliers such as Taiwan-based Foxconn and China-based Luxshare for product assembly. Relocating assembly operations from China requires these suppliers to establish new facilities in other countries with low labor cost, such as Brazil, Vietnam, and India. This pattern extends to other labor-intensive industries including clothing, shoe and furniture, where factory owners — predominantly Chinese nationals — have been compelled to transfer operations out of China. These manufacturing relocations reveal several key patterns:
    • Relocated factories often serve specific markets based on trade policies such as tariffs and subsidies. In the Apple case, Foxconn's India-based assembly facilities for iPhone primarily supply both US and Indian consumers, while the demand from the rest of the world will continue to be served by Chinese facilities.
    • Chinese investors retain controlling ownership of many relocated factories, preserving economic influence despite geographical shifts.
    • Despite lower wages, factories in countries receiving China's manufacturing overflow often face higher overall operational costs due to multiple factors:
      • Energy: These nations typically have higher power costs than China, with less reliable electrical systems leading to production disruptions and financial losses.
      • Land: Industrial property prices have surged in receiving countries, with premium locations now exceeding costs in China's developed regions. Even less desirable areas offer minimal cost advantages compared to China's underdeveloped regions.
      • Logistics: Manufacturing remains dependent on Chinese components and raw materials. These receiving nations generally have less advanced transportation infrastructure. Both factors increase logistics expenses.
      • Labor: While wages are lower, workers often have less education and fewer technical skills than their Chinese counterparts, resulting in reduced efficiency and quality control.
      • Technology: To offset the rise of labor cost, some Chinese manufacturing sectors have increased adoption of advanced technological solutions.
      • Government: China's governmental infrastructure typically provides superior administrative efficiency and streamlined regulatory processes compared to many countries receiving relocated manufacturing — reducing operational overhead for businesses. By contrast, businesses operating in certain alternative locations like India not only need to pay bribes to expedite the compliance process, but also face substantial penalties once they achieve notable profitability.
    Ultimately, US consumers will bear the additional costs associated with economic decoupling from China, while the rest of the global economy continues its established interdependence with Chinese manufacturing.
     
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