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Jalen Green will be the Rockets' Numero Uno

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by kpdark, Jan 2, 2024.

  1. daywalker02

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    That is the whole deal.....Stephen A going in circles over something that is a fact.

    Dude has to find his home where his driving and chucking is of more value......not under Udoka.
     
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  2. PeterKingX

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    He is not top 5 scorer talent either under Silas.
     
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  3. daywalker02

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    Yes, but he had more green light under Silas to chuck ......22-23 ppg was possible.

    As I said his most potent option is shooting massive 3s and which is not reliable over time.

    Kobe had a wide range of weapons when he was 23 and he didn't shoot those 3s as much.

     
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  4. Stephen_A

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    Over what? What exactly did I go in circles on? I simply made an observation that Edwards has struggled with this defense which he has which any guard would when trapped or doubled. if you or any of these people do not agree then simply state why you do not agree with facts, examples, and analysis instead of distracting from the topic with insults and accusations
     
  5. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    Such a child.

    Yes these predictions were wrong. I didn't take into consideration our coach might double down on stupid.

    What's the point here? That a person can't make good predictions if they got a prediction wrong?

    Or maybe that you never get predictions wrong?
     
  6. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    How would you possibly know that when you've never seen Jalen in average spacing and his HC tells him to stay out of "crowded areas" i.e. the paint? The only evidence you have is the brief windows of spacing forced by injuries and he's elevated his drives in all of those windows.
     
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    he cut his 3s back significantly as season went on, unless he was on a heater it wasn’t odd to see 4-6 attempts max … It’s because he realized or someone told him stop the step back 3 … he’s just not good at it
     
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  8. Stephen_A

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    No we are not all Rockets fans first. Have you looked at these people’s posts? They do not root for every player. They do hope for a certain player to fail. They have their favorites whom they never criticize no matter how terrible these players play. There’s even players who barely played in the reg season that these people are calling high IQ and great shooter etc. They moan and groan complaining and directing all their anger on one player. The hate is real. The bias is real.
     
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  9. PeterKingX

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    Jalen under Silas: FG% 42%

    Jalen under Ime: FG% 42%

    He is always that low efficient scorer, no matter who is coaching.

    Yeah he had green light to chuck more under Silas, but that's not good now, especially we have better option.
     
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    sengun declined across the board in multiple categories yet people here still see this as progress meanwhile continue to demonize Green every time he doesn’t have a great game
     
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    Jalen Green is at best 6th player in this league.
    And for about 4 whole years, this fanbase hypes and Dreams about this kid.
    He will be 40 years old and fans will be saying he is Rockets franchise player
    I dont know lf l have to laugh and cry..
    I believe some fans need to learn basketball iq and proper basketball.
     
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    this is no longer the same league - analytics killed the midrange game - Kobe would be jacking up 3s like majority of SGs now and Kobe was never known as efficient

    Rockets offense should be tailored to get your 3 best shooters open looks to catch and shoot … JG DB Bari .. problem is FVV is a horrible creator … Amen isn’t a true PG so he’s looking to score not pass been he breaks down defense, and Alpi has turned into a blackhole

    It was kind of easy to see when you look back - FVV brings ball up, passes with 14-12 on clock .. Alpi sets screen.. JG passes to Alpi… shotput, flamingo or drive and spin . I’m willing to bet that was prob 80% if not more of our halfcourt offense lol
     
  13. Mathloom

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    I don't think you can really blame the players of a team that has all of:

    - A plain vanilla floor general capable of putting up 8 assists to 2 TO's.
    - A passing C who can get more than 5 assists per game;
    - Amen is an easy 4-5 assists in big minutes
    - Jalen is 3-5 assists and extremely safe with the ball despite leading the team in drives

    And we are garbage as a team at generating assists? HOW? Our mantra is unselfishness and we have more good passers on the floor than most NBA teams, but we SUCK at generating assists. lol How can that be defended?

    This is an issue that's from the top, from the head of the snake (HC). Plenty of coaches who would have us averaging higher assists, making better use of our few shooters, staggering the players more intelligently.

    You have to create an advantage for someone to be the most dangerous scorer. I don't even care if it's not Jalen, let's say it's Alpi. Then put 4 shooters around him and play slow >> this will be how the defense collapses. Let's say it's Amen. Then put 4 shooters around him and play fast >> this is how the defense collapses. If you do any of those things, teams will pay for any cheating off any player and you will see more open shots and assists. Jalen has fared well in both of these systems.

    Instead he f*cked everyone by jamming the paint for everyone. Of course there are no assists. Sengun is being guarded by one guy. Amen's man is sagging off him. Jalen is passing out of the blitz and the other 4 can't score on 3 defenders. Where the heck are the assists going to come from?

    I'd argue there's literally no worse direction you could have taken our offense than the one Udoka did. In fact I dare anyone to suggest any system in use today that would have been worse for us than what Udoka ran. Silas achieved the same team TS% by just letting the kids do whatever they want to do and not caring about wins. Udoka's promise to us was playing the right way on offense. He spent $80m per season more than Silas and the only difference he made was to tell everyone to rebound their own misses. What a disaster.
     
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    You will see the odd thing that some fans are more loyal to the player than the entire team.....it does not surprise me ...

    Only the lengths they go for their player.

    They treat him like Blek Jesus.....nobody wants to crucify him, we just want him to be on another team where he can splash his money to the thots.

     
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    I thought there was more controversy on the board regarding Jalen but it really just seems like he has 3 devoted fans who respond to every negative post.

    I'm hoping Jalen is traded partly just to change the conversation.
     
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    The same guy complaining about anyone who doesn't like his player in the post below makes the post above. He thinks you are only a Rocket fan if you do not complain about his guy, no matter how bad he plays, while he criticizes the best layer we have, our only all-star. He is the epitome of a player only fan.

     
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    I hope the Jalen only fans follow him to his new team. Many of them are toxic.
     
  18. jogo

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    I'm a child for pointing our you are bad at predictions? Ok.

    Again, you predicted poorly but instead of admitting you overvalued Jalen you choose to blame on Ime. Classic JOF.

    The point of the prediction is that the JOFs like yourself frequently make wild predictions that don't come true. When shown these results, you just resort to name calling and blaming the coach.
     
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  19. jogo

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    Again, spacing is the problem, not Jalen's ability, correct? He doesn't need to practice three pointers at all this summer apparently. I've watched Jalen play for four years and he's the same player he was when he was drafted. And it's not because of spacing.
     
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    https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/63...thompson-offseason/?source=emp_shared_article

    This all better be lip service and trying to keep his value up because this organization is lost if they keep tying themselves to Jalen. Iko is a known mouthpiece for Stone, so it gives me hope that this is just bullshit.
     

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