We need to talk about Sengun's offense this season

You come off as someone who has never played any sport at any level....

Yes, playing much more intense defense harms your touch shooting the ball, especially for big men banging down low.

I honestly never thought I'd have to spell that out to anyone.

 

Nah, this isn't true and I played d1 college ball. If this was the case, how do you explain the high defenders who are also high end offensive players?

 

They drafted Shepperd because he's a outside shooter correct? If they trade Green and Smith plus picks for Giannis, then Reed is the backup pg. Dillon shot 40% from 3 land this season. Tari was at 34% , but he can get that up to 37-38%. Seth Curry is available for shooting along with a host of guys.

 

This is one of the things that showed early about his offense this season. Many posters at the start of this season were questioning what the Rockets staff did to Sengun during the offseason. He did not have balance and had very little lift. I think he should focus more on his around the rim shooting and moves, and his free throws, and leave the 3 point shooting for when the season starts. He has been criticized for his lack of long range shooting but he was much more effective around the rim throughout his career. That game brought him his all star nod and not his outside shooting. He should go back to basics and focus on his biggest strengths during the offseason. He is one of the most fouled players in the NBA so he should focus most on his free throw shooting. As for his shooting woes this season, I think it is the combination of all of the above as listed by the OP.

 

Lol I love it when people double down with obvious lies.

The concept of increased intensity on one side of the ball talking away from the performance on the other side of the ball is not a foreign concept to ANYONE who has played decently high level sports.

There is always a cost to increased intensity.... now sure, some are cardio gods so the impact will appear less for them.... and some find ways to sneak in rest time elsewhere... but it's just a fact of sports.

This effect is even more obvious the larger you are and the more physical the activity. If you are a 6'10 250 lb big man constantly banging down low, boxing out, and fighting for boards while playing starter minutes, the added intensity will effect you A LOT more than if you are a small guard that never boxes anyone out and never truly gets physical.


To be fully honest though, I wouldn't have to spell this out to anyone that actually played because you'd know.... either first hand, or have seen it with teammates.

 

Again, I played d1 and boxing out has nothing to do with your shooting or scoring. It comes to your conditioning and Alpi doesn't look like he's in peak conditioning. There are things he can control and thats one of them. He can also increase his mobility with ladder work. Overrall, he can become a better athlete, but it takes intensive cardio and core work, something he can control.

 

Where did you play d1 at? Heights and stats please

 

And you come off as someone just itching to be done with Jalen Green, not because it's the right move, but because being right about him matters more to you than the Rockets team does.

And the silence on the other points? That says a lot. Not in a dramatic way, just in that subtle, telling way silence always does. You had nothing to say, because there's nowhere to go.

Sengun, the guy who’s supposedly a cornerstone, was clearly less efficient than the rest of the team combined. And that’s with single coverage, more often than not. Not Ime's fault. Not Jalen's fault. Not his teammates' fault.

But here’s the kicker: every single one of these bigs, all of them DPOY candidates, played defense, logged minutes, banged in the paint and still managed to be efficient.

Mobley? 63.3%.
Zubac? 64.1%.
Jaren Jackson Jr? 59.1%.
Giannis? 62.5%.
Gobert? 68.7%.

So what gives? What’s Sengun’s excuse?

 

SWT now Tx St. 6'4.5 g/f . DD was the radio pbp. How about you?

 

Sengun plays more to his talent, but he has room. That's why I prefer to keep him over Green. He just cant be your best player.

 

Yeah Sengun should be the 2nd option in the post when we generate mismatches. If we have a star guard as the first option we can create mismatches for Sengun so he can play to his strengths. But we can't rely on him to be the first option every game because he struggles vs more physical defenders.

If we can get a shooting guard who can beat their defender and play the pick-roll this team will skyrocket. Not to mention a lob threat at the 5.

 

So you're either lying or being intentionally stupid about this... but fine, I'll play along.

Let's pretend you boxed. That would mean you might be aware of the concept of weight classes.

You have your foresight flyweights and your strawweights that are effectively small children who can have super aggressive insanely fast paced matches because they are small children who have very little body mass or muscle.

Then you have your heavyweights, if they attempted to fight with the speed or intensity of the flyweights they'd gas themselves within 2 rounds and be helpless after that. There's not an amount of cardio in the world that can change that... they simply have too much mass and too much muscle to maintain that type of pace.

Now sure, they can get better by focusing on cardio... but they'll never be the tiny children throwing hundreds of lightning fast punches.

You see what I'm getting at? Your 250 lb centers are your heavyweights.


This is day one ****, so you're either a liar or just a kid that still has similac on his breath that doesn't know the basics. You pick.

 

He didn’t say he boxed, lol. He said boxing out. You know, the thing basketball players do under the rim, not in the ring.

And seriously, what's with the attitude? You treat people like they wandered into your private seminar by accident.

 

I'm just not big on dishonest people saying obviously dumb ****.

Those who come with dumb **** will be ridiculed for their ridiculous behavior.

Pretty straightforward

 

Let me give you some free game from my time playing college basketball that I doubt you did. We had to be on the track at 530. We did 40s,100s,200s,400s, box jumps, ladder work and even relays before class. We had to be on the court at 230pm, we stretched, did 9s. Do you know what 9s are? Thats side;ine to sideline 9 times in 27 seconds for guards and 30seconds for forwards and centers. Then we did heavy rope in between that. Afterwards we shot free throws. My coach was also on the bulls staff and he believed in stamina. Now this is 90-94. My coach also believed in outlasting teams because of this. He would throw the ball to the rim and it was all box out. Shooting was the last thing we did alomg with running shell offense and defense. So what I'm telling you that obviously you're not understanding is when your conditioning is top shelf, it doesn't bother the rest of your game. Boxing out is core strength and leaning on people. What I see in Alpi is avg core strength which in turn bothers his finishing ability. Again, even at 250 he can improve this incrementally. There are many big guys in the nba who are on the athletic level of Alpi who perform better because their core is stronger. If you cant understand that, you're telling me you've never done it past jr high.

 

Lol, kid, when I was that age I was in the Army and I could PT you till you ****ing die and it would be my warm up. At the time I could rock a 100 lb ruck and almost certainly outhike you with nothing on your back at whenever the the peak of your physical fitness was..... let's just say I know a thing or two about physical training.

What you don't understand because you only played at a scrub level is that the margin for error is absurdly tiny at the NBA level and EVERYONE is stronger, faster, and better than anyone you've ever played against.

In the NBA you'd have to work harder than you've ever worked in your life against players who are ALL better than anyone you've ever played against then try to get a shot off that's harder than any you've ever tried to get off AND you'd have to be better at it than you've ever dreamed of being.

Let's not downplay the NBA, Brian Scalabrine at 47 is almost certainty still better at basketball than you've ever been.

Now, that said, you genuinely don't think the NBA has their players doing superior cardio to what you did at Johnny Buckwheat Junior College? I mean, of course it is.... every team's program almost certainly is.

That "work harder and outlast teams" shtick works wonders at the lower levels where there's not much talent... at the NBA level you're already talking about the best, most talented athletes in the history of the world.... and they are all already doing all of those things and more.

Despite all of that, when players work significantly harder on defense, it still typically leads to struggles on offense. Even with the world class cardio programs, even with them being the best athletes in the world..... that's why it's flat out absurd for anyone to pretend they don't know that basic fact.

 

Scrub level? lmao! Those navy /army guys can do a lot of the cardio I mentioned, but then to apply that to playing basketball is another level. Again, to train like that then to use that that in basketball function is different. I digress

 

Yes, compared to the NBA. There are about 5500 D1 college basketball players every year, maybe 50 of them are good enough to even have a chance to be bench warmers in the NBA.

 

He said he played D1 basketball, you called him a liar. He provided you with his school and when he played. Who is the d*ck here? Anybody that makes a D1 college basketball team is in the top 1% of people that play basketball. It is a great accomplishment in and of itself. You only have one skillset and that is to troll Rocket fans that don’t agree with your asinine opinions of Jalen and Reed. Go back under the rock where you were hiding when Jalen was playing good.

 

I still think he's a liar but I went ahead and played along.

No one that actually played sports at any level would argue that significantly increased intensity on one end doesn't take away from the other end.... and that goes double for big men in basketball.

The only scenario that makes sense is if he simply never played enough to know what that's like.... but you'd think even if that was the case, he'd have seen it with his teammates that actually played.

I understand that you constantly have Jalen's dick in your mouth... but this current conversation has nothing to do with your boyfriend, so calm down white knight.