[Pain] HUGE, self-inflicted Recession incoming due to Trump/Musk

Saving from military cuts is where the money would come from.

Man Trump is all off in your head

 

No, they aren't saving that kind of money at all. You can't be serious. The whole idea is absurd. It would stop IBCMs anyway. We already spend 10 times more than most countries, but you are fine spending 30 times more on defense than other countries? There are so many other problem and more important things that we could address in this country. SMH

Trump just wants an iron dome over Mar a Lago and all his resorts because he's pissing off so many people around the world with his fist pumping, corruption, and arrogance.

 

SMH at the last paragraph.

He's doing exactly what he was elected to do. You gotta learn to deal with it.

 

Trump 2.0 lied that

on the first day in office

• inflation, specifically the price of eggs, will come down
• the stock market will rise

the opppoist has happened

 

Eggs have comedown where I live. So has inflation. Inflation will continue to comedown as energy prices continue to fall, even with the tariffs.

 

unsolicited corroboration from a MAGAT that Trump had lied

btw, egg prices and inflation are still higher thant Biden's last dat office

 

No, he isn't. Keep believing that lie though, just like when he said he knew nothing about Project 2025, or when he says his last election was stolen, when he claimed Haitians were eating cats and dogs, when he said he has a healthcare plan, when he said he will end inflation on day one, will make black lives better, end the Ukraine War in one day, and said he was pro union. All a bunch of BS. He said he was for the middle class, yet is stripping away worker protections and cutting regs that could put them at more risk, especially in fields around chemicals, coal, and toxins.

Let's see if our electric bills are cut in half this year too like he promised. Now he says we need to suffer a bit, as he wines and dines at his resorts, golfs, and holds fundraisers, and takes bribes, money into his crypto and meme grifts, or real estate ventures for policies in return.

The guy is stripping civil rights, fired all black and women leaders across the military, and is claiming DEI hires as excuses for his bigotry and racism, as he appoints less qualified people who are white loyalists, who put Trump before country as their replacements. He fast tracks white South Africans as refugees, but puts people from 3rd world countries trying to escape from from war ravaged countries, extreme violence, natural disasters and poverty, religious or homophobic persecution, and refugee camps on hold, even though thousands were already approved and many had had waited years. He's a racist, unless of course that black person has wealth, power, or is a celebrity willing to kiss his butt for a favor.

He always says he isn't doing anything wrong, as he funnels money into his crypto and businesses for favors, and lies about crap daily. A lifetime con and fraud loves grifting the ones he fools. He's mastered the art of manipulation. He's turning his back on our allies, and aligning with some of the most evil dictator types, who have no qualms about assassinating those who speak out against them, or torturing and wrongfully imprisoning their own people.

But yeah, if you agree that's all good we have different morals.

 

Not at the HEB I shop at.

Inflation is down to 2.4 %

 

Look at the numbers before the 2020 election and the numbers of the 2024 election and a very good case can be made that the 2020 election was stolen. Bottom line is we need to go back to in person voting with an ID and paper ballots. (The military/old people get to mail in vote)

Things are cheaper right now then they were before Trump took office and with lower energy costs (Drill baby Drill ) I am guessing they will sty that way.

After doing away with the DEI in the military BS, do you think it's a coincidence that recruitment is way up? It's OK for Biden to spend 1/2 of his term at the beach, but it's not OK for Trump to play golf on HIS golf course? SMH. Biden spent his time in Delaware sleeping, Trump spends his time in Fla playing golf and working.

I'm just glad he's cleaning up the trash Biden let in the country, You can back these criminals all you like but the majority of the voters voted for Trump to secure the border and return these people back to their country of origin. Are the South Africans going through legal channels? I haven't seen where Trump has gained wealth from being POTUS. Now Obama was worth 1.7 mil when he was voted POTUS and now he's worth 70 mil. This doesn't even bring into focus the Biden crime family grift.

It's time that our allies pay their fair share and I'm glad to see the UK sign the trade deal. Another case of tariffs working. China is next up. Trump wants to bring jobs back to America and is giving companies incentives partly through tariffs to accomplish this goal.

What evil dictators is he aligning with and dont give me the Russia Russia Russia, Putin Putin Putin BS.

Yes, we do have very different morals, I believe in less govt in our lives (The less the better) I believe the rest of the world needs to pay their fair share, that jobs and manufacturing needs to be brought back to this country so we can leave things better for our children/grandchildren even if it costs us money in the present. 55 years of bad trade deals wont be fixed without some pain but this needs to be accomplished for the future of our country. You dont believe in manufacturing everything we possibly can manufacture here in the USA? Yeah, you're right we do have different morals.

 

well said. its incredible that someone who actually said they want musk/DOGE/trump to "burn the bureaucracy to the ground" would also advocate for a 2,470 trillion dollar "iron dome".

 

the 2024 US military budget was $997 billion. so where exactly are you getting this $2,470 trillion from because even if we totally eliminated the military budget it would take hundreds and hundreds of years to fund your iron dome.

 

I haven't seen any hard figures on what it would take to build an iron dome. 2,000 years, doubtful.

 

OMG, LOL

Things had already been getting cheaper. We will see how that goes when tariffs kick in.
We were already drilling like crazy. Get back to me next September about that electric bill and we will see if it's half of last year. By the way, I'm not big on polluting our gulf or drilling on protected lands, or making it easier for billionaires to poison more people with toxic waste just to save a buck a gallon so they can make billions more while making people sicker and putting more chemicals in our air and water. For you it seems all about money. I'm different. I care more about people.

First of all, unlike you, I don't consider all illegal immigrants trash. I do believe that most of them were escaping fear, threats, crime, and dire straights that you can't imagine, and were so desperate to get out of that situation they risked their lives trying to get here. Do I agree with doing anything illegal? Absolutely not. That includes white collar criminals. If it were up to me pedos would be locked away for life, mass shooters should be executed, drunk drivers who kill or severely injured anyone should be locked away for life, and so on.

Do I believe in calling all illegal immigrants animals, drug dealers, rapists, and murderers? No, I call that racist mentality. I don't even believe 20% of them are.

Of course, even if you got rid of every single illegal, this country would still have hundreds of thousands of drug dealers, murderers, pedophiles, criminals and rapists. Yes, believe it or not, plenty are white Americans, rich and poor.

Trump is a fine example of how guys with money escape the law though, and he surrounds himself with other white collar criminals. He might not have murdered anyone but he's done some pretty horrific thing to people which ruined their lives. He's been accused and convicted of felonies, gotten away with a lot of crimes, associates with drug users and pedos, is an accused assaulter, rapist and pedo, and has partied and hung out with child groomers.

I already explained all that. I was talking about fast tracking them in 3 months and canceling the thousands from 3rd world countries who had already been waiting years, and had been approved.

I bet every single president has been worth way more money after their Presidency. The difference is that they didn't use their businesses as their White House, their negotiating grounds, their place to wheel and deal for policies, and grift off the government to pay for it, and probably didn't do a tenth of the crap Trump does. Hell, he wants bribery legal again. He's taken steps to rid policies and bipartisan agencies from investigating his crap by inserting loyalists who lies for him. He's making cyber crimes easier to get away with. He's already made billions in crypto, meme tokens, and real estate investments from lobbyists, foreign governments, and politicians and billionaires for bribes for policies they want. We won't even begin to know half of what's coming in with his shady crypto business. LOL at Biden Crime family compared to the The Trump's and Kushner's. You are hilarious. Sometimes I think you are just saying BS to say it. You can't be that naive.

LOL at the UK trade deal. Do you buy a lot of Made in the UK products?

As for the other countries, we will wait and see. Trump is so up and down with it all he is like the boy crying wolf. Trump wants to bring coal mining back while stripping regs that protect them. Big win for the big guys, and for those who dream of being coal miners. Jobs will never be as safe. Our air, water, and environment will be more toxic. His tariff madness is ridiculous. He acts like the idiot, spoiled brat that wants everything, and bully, but that's what he is.

Do your homework. Their are plenty more. He might be getting some deals for himself and his businesses with some this week.

 

Lets just say we view the world very differently and I understand the definition of the word ILLEGAL, you dont.

Also Drill baby Drill is actually more green friendly than you think because we are cleaner at producing oil than any other country in the world. Tell you what heve China quit building coal powered plants and Russia/Iran get to the green standards you want then we as a country will follow suit. After all we are already the cleanest when it comes to producing energy. BTW, this is nothing more than the Green New Scam. A way for globalists to transfer this countries wealth. But if you truly want to go green then you can go back to living in a cave, crapping in a box. I'll pass.

 

Wrong

False, but we produce the most.

Also, Trump will allow more toxic emissions, is cutting many regs, and will allow oil and chemical plant billionaires to build their wealth, at the expense of sickening and killing people. They will get away with more chemicals spills or negligence and safety violations without fear of much more than a slap on the wrist, even if their toxins and chemicals kill more people living nearby. They paid him big, and lined his pockets to make that happen.

As far as clean energy, we are nowhere even remotely close to the level many modern countries are. Clean air, water, and power is only a scam if you believe those who'd rather drill for more billions, while polluting and sickening people within their vicinity. The same goes for the workers mining and burning coal, or living or working near toxic fumes, leaks, and fires from chemical plants.

What? I never said that. I'm not the one selling products made overseas, or selling stuff with parts made overseas. I've owned Americans cars, and bought American made products. Even Trump had a bunch of his products made overseas that he sells in his Trump store. Maybe instead of spending a couple trillion on an iron dome Trump should use that money to give huge grants to American manufacturers, and those wanting to, and not rely on foreign investors, or having them bring their companies here. They aren't Americans.

You could say that about clean energy too. It might take years, and won't be fixed anytime soon, but a cleaner environment, less pollutants, and cleaner air and water are important for the future of our country.

I served 20 years. I never saw people of color or women treated better than the white men. How many years did you serve? What's your experience to justify that opinion? I call it BS.

You can't even begin to justify Hegseth being appointed as head of the Department of Defense when his highest leadership of troops was a platoon leader. Then, Trump firing far more qualified leaders of all the armed forces, and he and Hegseth calling it DEI. That's just racist and bigot BS.

There weren't any transgenders in the military when I served, and I can't speak for a group of people I never worked with, but I don't know why they can't serve their country just like anyone else, if they can do the job required. I don't agree with firing them all. They are serving our country, and putting their lives on the lines like every other person in the military.

 

yes you have. i posted a link to an article that had hard figures and you responded to it by saying "I'm still for doing this and improving on it."

and 2,000 is not "doubtful". again, the military annual budget is just under 1 trillion a year. your missile dome is estimated to cost $2,470 trillions of dollars. 2,470/1=2,470 years, and again thats only if you totally eliminate the military budget. but lets say it only costs 1/2 that much...or 1/10th that much. its still not economically realistic.

your proposal is totally unrealistic, just like your desire to see the bureaucracy "burned to to the ground".

 

Burning the bureaucracy to the ground is realisic.

Trump is just getting started he's had a wonderful 100 days. Cant wait for the next 100 days, now go live in your cave and crap in a box if you truly want to live green.

You could cut the military budget in 1/2 and pay for it in 6 years. But hey, say I'm wrong and it takes 10-15 yrs to pay it off, it's still a win-win. BTW, I dont think Trump has enough time to accomplish this but I love the idea. 500 bil divided into 3 tril = ?

 

US and Asian markets are soaring as the Trump-China trade deal takes bloom. Trump is once again bringing home the bacon for Americans. Amazing.

Asia-Pacific markets rise after White House announces U.S.-China trade deal
Asia-Pacific markets rose Monday over optimism that U.S.-China trade tensions could de-escalate following the superpowers’ talks in Switzerland over the weekend.

Both countries alluded to a positive conclusion of the high-stakes trade talks, with U.S. officials touting a deal to reduce its trade deficit, while Chinese leaders said that they have arrived at an “important consensus.”

U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent noted that the talks yielded “a great deal” of productivity. Meanwhile, Chinese Vice Premier He Lifeng said a joint statement containing “good news for the world” would be released on Monday.
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/12/asia-markets-live-stocks-to-mostly-rise.html

 

it'd take a very ignorant fool/sheep to parrot the lies by Trump 2.0, Traitor George fits that requirement like a glove.

"I’m happy to report that we made substantial progress between the US and China in the very important trade talks,"
Bessent told reporters, adding that "the talks were productive.",

To the extent that there was with no details, it wasn't immediately clear whether a deal had actually materialized.​

 

Liberals, would you find it upsetting if the stock market BOOMED today?



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