100%. Modern India as envisioned was to be multi-ethnic, multi-religious, multi-cultural nation for the very diverse peoples who live in its borders. But these arrangements live and die by cultural acceptance, and Islam (and Christianity) are completely incompatible with the Vedic traditions that were introduced, developed, and took root during the Aryan assimilation thousands of years ago. Your average Hindu Nationalist knows this just as Jinnah did during the partition. While India lacks linguistic harmony, at least it has religious harmony with 80% of its inhabitants practicing under the umbrella of Hinduism. That religious harmony is being used to reinforce national identity at the expense of the Abrahamic religious minorities. I suspect you're probably Hinduvata so you already know all this.
Let Kashmir vote on it. Referendum on Independence, Pakistan, India, or Chinese sovereignty. Switzerland is in the middle of Western Europe, it has its own cultural identity, and it's not Germany, France, or Italian. It's not even in the EU or NATO. But if you're India today, why even let the Kashmiris vote on independence when the Maharaja of Kashmir already decided Kashmir would join the new Indian nation to defend against marauding tribes from Pakistan trying to enforce Pakistani annexation. And if you're into realpolitiks, you don't give up the region. You annex and integrate it and repopulate it with loyalists from the rest of the subcontinent like any successful empire with pockets of ethnic minorities like Russia did in Central Asia and the Caucuses, even if it means putting down the local population until they break.
Jinnah was a mass murdering psychopath who formed a nation full of genocidal, intolerant savages. It turns out you weren’t just intolerant towards Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, Jains, Jews, and Christians, you were also intolerant of anyone that didn’t follow your brand of extremist Islam. So after wiping out all the non-Muslims, your blood thirst still wasn’t satisfied and you butchered 3 million Bangladeshis to death. All it took was a little cash, and the army of allah under General Zia was massacring Palestinians at a rate worse than anything Israel has ever done. General Musharraf was galavanting around Gilgit and Baltistan with Osama bin Laden in the late 80s killing a whole bunch of Shias. More recently, Ahmediyas who were key backers of your fascist state are now they are begging India for asylum. In a hilarious twist that the poster Around the World would love, Pakistanis and leftists/woke are calling Modi fascist for not fast-tracking citizenship for the Ahmediyas that Pakistanis themselves are genociding (while making no mention of who is carrying out the actual genocide itself) it must really chap your hide to know that the leader of the forces that just decimated all of your air bases, exposed your air defenses, destroyed your terrorist camps, and had your politicians literally weeping in parliament was led by a woman. A Muslim one. Wing Commander Sofia Qureshi. While our Muslim women are rising to the top in positions of power, yours are siting encased in some trash bag somewhere on the side of roads begging for food.
Assuming you're responding to me and not making a general response to any Pakistanis lurking on the forum, my interest in the conflict comes from India and Pakistan being nuclear rivals, not who they're praying to. We in the US allied and armed Pakistan because India despite being non aligned cozied up to and relied on the USSR. Even today, India maintains close relations with Russia and Iran and there is nothing we (the US) can do to change that. I get India's distrust of the collective West after centuries of embarrassment starting with the Portuguese and culminating into being directly ruled by London.
It's a beautiful sentiment, but things are not kumbaya and love toward religious minorities in India. And criticism of India does not mean Pakistan is doing it any better. It absolutely is not. Pakistan is objectively magnitudes worse for religious minorities. https://www.genocidewatch.com/single-post/far-right-hindu-group-attack-easter-service-in-india An Easter prayer service in the Indian city of Ahmedabad was disrupted on Sunday by members of two far-right Hindu groups who accused attendees of engaging in religious conversions. Eyewitness footage shared on social media showed activists from the Bajrang Dal and the Vishva Hindu Parishad (VHP) entering a private prayer meeting in the Odhav area of the city, wielding sticks and shouting slogans such as “Jai Shree Ram” (Glory to Lord Ram) and “Har Har Mahadev” (Hail Lord Shiva). The groups are known for their links to Hindutva, a hardline nationalist ideology that promotes Hindu supremacy. They are also loosely affiliated with the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS), the ideological parent of prime minister Narendra Modi’s Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), and have long campaigned against Christian and Muslim religious conversions. While there were no reports of injuries, the incident has added to growing concerns over the increasing frequency of religiously motivated intimidation and violence in India. Inspector Pratik Zinzuvadia of the Odhav police confirmed that the incident occurred during a Christian congregation at a residential hall in Vimalpark Society, attended by around 100 people marking Easter Sunday. According to police, the intruders confronted attendees – many of whom were women – and demanded to know their religion, accusing organisers of conducting illegal conversions of Hindus to Christianity. The situation was brought under control after police were called to the scene. Both parties were taken to the local police station, where they submitted written complaints. Darshan Joshi, a local representative of Bajrang Dal, filed a statement requesting an investigation into “religious conversion”, reported the Indian Express. However, Inspector Zinzuvadia confirmed that officers found no indication of conversion activity during their preliminary assessment. Emanuel Amaydas, a member of the Christian community present at the gathering, filed a counter-complaint accusing 10 to 15 unidentified individuals of storming the venue and causing disruption. Police said they were examining the complaints and that no formal charges had been filed as of Sunday evening. "We have taken complaints from both sides and begun an inquiry into the case," Inspector Zinzuvadia said. Jvalit Mehta, a regional coordinator of Bajrang Dal, later told the Times of Indiathe activists had entered Christian gatherings in both Odhav and Nikol neighbourhoods based on what he described as “information that conversion activities were going on”. Under Indian law, forced religious conversion is illegal in several states, though laws are often vaguely defined and critics say they are frequently misused to target minority communities. In 2024, attacks on Christians rose to 834 incidents, up from 734 the previous year, according to data from the United Christian Forum. https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/02/19/india-vigilante-cow-protection-groups-attack-minorities India: Vigilante ‘Cow Protection’ Groups Attack Minorities Authorities Should End Communal Rhetoric, Prosecute Assailants
Islamists, who otherwise are allergic to modernity, accommodation, and ideals like democracy are all of a sudden asking for referendums. That’s hilarious. Where were these referendums when Pakistan was created. My grandparents from Karachi definitely didn’t have a say in anything - they only had the choice of leaving or dying because their Muslim neighbors decided they couldn’t live with them anymore. (Karma is a biatch though. Sindhi Muslims booted out all of the intelligentsia in their cities and the vacuum was filled by knuckle dragging Neanderthals from Afghanistan and a group of people from India who’s leader looks like Jabba the Hut’s stunt double ) Back to Kashmir - after wiping out all of the Hindus from the valley, killing Shias all over the state, flooding the Pakistani portion of Kashmir with punjabis, and changing the overall demographics of the state, the Islamists all of a sudden want a referendum. Just curious - in this hypothetical referendum, are these Islamists willing to hold further referendums that will result in breakup of Kashmir as they envision it? Because the biggest part of Kashmir area wise is Ladakh - and the Buddhists that live there want nothing to do with these Islamists. Will the Islamists accept Hindu majority Jammu not being a part of their Islamic state? Will they accept partitioning the valley for a homeland for the Hindus they kicked out? The end result would mean the Islamists are essentially left with nothing. also, please stop insulting everyone’s intelligence by trying to claim that this independent Islamic state is going to be some Switzerland. Put down the crack pipe
lol let’s stop with all this multicultural multi ethnic tolerance bullshit. India has become a place of crazy ass radicals that treat those that aren’t diehard Hindu nationalists as second class citizens and discriminate against them. One of the Scandinavian countries publishes a study a couple of years ago where there was a clear and systematic pattern of denying non-Hindus housing. The Dalit population (primarily Christian) are confined to the worst and inhumane roles. I won’t even argue against your main point…but to act like India is some tolerant bastion of peace is absolutely insane. We get it, you have strong roots and bias towards the region.
You can’t go on reddit or any other ****ing site without these psychopaths downvoting or flooding the comment section with misinformation with their brainwashed nonsense about Indian supremacy. Tried reading something about Indias rape problem or modern day slavery structure and you can’t view anything without the rabid pro India crowd downvoting stuff into oblivion the lack of self awareness is also alarming. The entire region of South Asia is a shitthole. But you only have one group of people kidding themselves otherwise
I am sorry your family was expelled and had to deal with the pains (and violence) of the partition of British India. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c30q09638n8o How old is this conflict? Kashmir is an ethnically diverse Himalayan region famed for the beauty of its lakes, meadows and snow-capped mountains. Even before India and Pakistan won their independence from Britain in August 1947, the area was hotly contested. Under the partition plan provided by the Indian Independence Act, Muslim-majority Kashmir was free to accede to either India or Pakistan. The maharaja (local ruler), Hari Singh, initially wanted Kashmir to become independent - but in October 1947 chose to join India, in return for its help against an invasion of tribesmen from Pakistan. A war erupted and India asked the United Nations to intervene. The UN recommended holding a plebiscite to settle the question of whether the state would join India or Pakistan. However, the two countries could not agree to a deal to demilitarise the region before the referendum could be held. In July 1949, India and Pakistan signed an agreement to establish a ceasefire line as recommended by the UN and the region became divided. AFP Kashmir is known by some as India's Switzerland, due to its verdant fields and sweeping mountainscapes A second war followed in 1965. Then in 1999, India fought a brief but bitter conflict with Pakistani-backed forces. By that time, India and Pakistan were declared nuclear powers. Today, Delhi and Islamabad both claim Kashmir in full, but control only parts of it. Why has there been so much unrest in the Indian-administered part? Within Indian-administered Kashmir, opinions about the territory's rightful allegiance are diverse and strongly held. Many do not want it to be governed by India, or prefer a return to the semi-autonomous status that they had until 2019. Some also want outright independence. Religion is also an important factor: Indian-administered Kashmir is more than 60% Muslim, making it the only part of India where Muslims are in the majority. An armed revolt has been waged against Indian rule in the region since 1989, claiming tens of thousands of lives. India accuses Pakistan of backing militants in Kashmir - a charge its neighbour denies. In 2019, Indian-administered Kashmir was stripped of its semi-autonomous status by the government in Delhi amid a huge security crackdown. For several years after the revocation of the region's special status, militancy waned and tourist visits soared. What happened after previous Kashmir militant attacks? In 2016, after 19 Indian soldiers were killed in Uri, India launched "surgical strikes" across the Line of Control - the de facto border between India and Pakistan - targeting alleged militant bases. In 2019, the Pulwama bombing, which left more than 40 Indian paramilitary personnel dead, prompted Indian airstrikes deep into Balakot - the first such action inside Pakistan since 1971 - sparking retaliatory raids and an aerial dogfight. Tensions rose again in April 2025 after years of relative calm when militants killed 26 people in an attack on tourists near the resort town of Pahalgam in Indian-administered Kashmir. It was the deadliest attack on civilians in two decades. India responded two weeks later with missile strikes on targets in Pakistan and Pakistan-administered Kashmir, once again raising fears of further escalation and calls for restraint. Kashmir remains one of the most militarised zones in the world. What about hopes for peace? India and Pakistan did agree a ceasefire in 2003. In 2014, India's current Prime Minister Narendra Modi came to power promising a tough line on Pakistan, but also showed interest in holding peace talks. But a year later, India blamed Pakistan-based groups for an attack on its airbase in Pathankot in the northern state of Punjab. Modi also cancelled a scheduled visit to the Pakistani capital, Islamabad, for a regional summit in 2017. Since then, there hasn't been any progress in talks between the neighbours.
Nothing needs to be said about Pakistan. It’s a failed state. But the biggest revelation in all of this is the kind of fascist and extremist state that India has become. https://www.yahoo.com/news/x-says-india-ordered-block-113033645.html X says India ordered it to block 8,000 accounts or face jail for local staff Effie Webb Fri, May 9, 2025 at 7:30 AM EDT 2 min read Elon Musk, X's owner, and Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi met in April to discuss US-India tech collaboration.Press Information Bureau / Handout/Anadolu via Getty Images X said it was ordered to restrict thousands of accounts in India. The company said its staff in India faced "significant fines and imprisonment" if it didn't comply. The takedown demand follows a Kashmir terror attack that has reignited India-Pakistan tensions. Elon Musk's X says India's government has ordered it to block more than 8,000 accounts in the country or face "significant fines and imprisonment" for local X staff. The company's global government affairs team said Thursday that it had begun restricting access to the flagged accounts in India.
I get why the Indian government did this. Social media has been completely overrun with actual lies and misinformation about the conflict (Pakistan destroyed India's S400! India downed Pakistan's F16s!) and Indian and Pakistani media brands on the platforms are quick to push false stories without any confirmation.
Considering the stuff their own state run media is pushing, let’s be real their goal isn’t to suppress misinformation. Read into the specific companies they had beef against. Some on an international level. You don’t threaten imprisoning people if that’s your goal…it’s fascism 101 it’s a complete portrayal of the troll farms etc online. They want to suppress anything critical of their country. You can’t read anything about the ongoing rapes , modern day slavery they basically institutionalize because they repress anything they don’t like. Again, it’s laughable to portray what’s now a fascist state as some kind of peaceful democracy
The person in that video isn't Hafiz Abdul Rauf lol the fact that you blindly believed India media shows how clueless and lost you are Clueless
Now that the ceasefire has been broken and India claiming Trump had nothing to do with it how stupid do you look? Why do you braindead cultists try to act smart only to look like the illiterate cultists we all know you are? Do you MAGATs enjoy embarrassing yourself ?
And how is it Trump's fault both of these countries are dumb as rocks...Just like you.. They can go at it if they want, Trump already helped them achieve peace... If they want to fight then let them fight.. As long as we aren't funding their dumb ass war I'm cool....
LOL your dumbass rushed to take credit for a "ceasefire" that India said trump didn't even help with but suddenly when it's broken you want no blame. Dumbest lowest iq group of people in the world
