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Jalen Green will be the Rockets' Numero Uno

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by kpdark, Jan 2, 2024.

  1. xtruroyaltyx

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    Do you know what strawman is?

    I didnt argue any point you made because honestly I didnt even read it all. I only saw the part about kyrie and I clarified my position about the Celtics adding kyrie and how nba championship teams have been historically built. Just being honest i really didnt read or pay attention to anything else you wrote to "strawman" it.
     
  2. kpdark

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  3. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    This is a basketball forum, it’s literally… all talk.
     
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  4. Mathloom

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    Draymond must be trying to raise Jalen’s trade value here.

    Plus he couldn’t possibly say something negative about someone, Draymond Green never does that.
     
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  5. hlmbasketball

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    Who else needs to keep saying the same thing before Jackson Gatlin and the rest of you get it??
     
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    Yeah, it's a pretty condescending way to respond. Even if he really believed that the question was flawed, he didn't have to talk like that. He could have just explained why the data the reporter pointed out was not valid or something like that.

    The way he dismissed it came across as defensive rather than being confident of what they've been doing.
     
  7. OremLK

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    Here is what MJ averaged against those Bad Boy Pistons during each of his first four playoff series against them applying their "Jordan Rules":

    27.4 points on 49.1% shooting
    29.6 points on 46.0% shooting
    32.1 points on 46.7% shooting
    29.7 points on 53.5% shooting

    The great ones find a way to get it done.

    And look, I'm not expecting Jalen to be MJ. I think even his biggest boosters by now know nothing like that is in the cards. But regardless of what the opposing defense is doing, he has to find a way to contribute more if he wants to ever be even a playoff starter, let alone a star-level player. If not in points, then at least in assists.

    You can go on all day about his offensive gravity, but his offensive gravity only makes a major difference if he can make the right pass with the ball in his hands. He couldn't do that, so trapping him was just a win-win strategy, and turned him into a liability out there.
     
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    And Udoka didn't help at all with Amen and the double big line up

    If Jalen was able to get by the blitz or double team he had 4 people standing in the paint with between Amen, Sengun, and Adams playing
     
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    Mj vs bad boy pistons TS%

    54.9
    56.1
    56.6
    64.6

    Jalen TS% vs the warriors

    48.2
     
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  10. hlmbasketball

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    I think its because Stone knew Jackson Gatlin had/has an agenda and he knew what he was targeting Jalen because of it, that's why he dismissed it!
     
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  11. hlmbasketball

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    Exactly! It's a matter of playing style, that's what People don't understand. I've said it from the start. Ime wants to play a slowdown pace game but to me your roster is split between two styles.
     
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    Can you imagine Jordan being defended by Steph Curry. Hahahahahahahahahaha
     
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    What is he supposed to say? The Warriors won easily. They played against a team who’s leading scorer shat the bed repeatedly.
     
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    Edwards getting 20 pts with 13 shots.

    Jalen can't score like Edwards because he is not allowed to take bad shots like Edwards did?

    Lol
     
  15. daywalker02

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    Screw Edwards, he has been better though.

     
  16. daywalker02

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    Maybe but Stone has a history replying with platitudes and not saying anything, thoughtless answers he learned by heart.....


    To lure something out of him is impossible, but Gatlin tried.

    The miserable performance was there at display, doesn't matter.

     
  17. Jturbofuel

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    Jalen having a bad series wasn't as concerning as him being so passive in the series.
     
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    Being passive wasn’t the concerning part at all the HC has said a million times now that Jalen was asked to just pass the ball out of the aggressive blitz. There are no shot attempts, points or assists for doing that.

    For me the only concerning thing that took place is he didn’t call the coach out. IMO a star would tell the coach: this is BS, my teammates are not getting it done either. give me the ball, space the floor and let me cook.

    OR he could have told his coach to speed the offense up and attack them on their heels so that it’s not so easy for them to scheme the defense.

    What likely would have happened is Udoka gets very angry and rejects it, but at least Jalen would be able to demonstrate he knows what’s wrong and Stone would understand Udoka needs an assistant.

    I think Jalen is too raw tactically to have understood this and he went along with a poor offensive coach that made him look bad. I think he was convinced he’s doing what’s best for the team. What really took place is Amen was only 15.7 points on 12 shots on less than single coverage (way too few drives) and Sengun was 21 points on 19 shots with single coverage (highly inefficient for a big). The whole point of Udoka’s plan was it would get easy shots for everyone else but it did no such thing because he clogged his own paint - just resulted in Amen and Sengun midrange jumpers which the Warriors would happily have given up at the start of any play.

    Bottom line is the thing people wanted Jalen to do would have gone against the HC. Stupid to blame most of that on him. They have said many times he made the right passes.
     
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  20. DaDakota

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    An agenda huh, what agenda exactly?

    Or, was Jackson wanting to know if they saw the data that showed the Rox are better when Jalen sits in almost every instance.

    DD
     
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