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Kilmar Abrego Garcia will not be returned to the US

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by RESINator, Apr 14, 2025.

  1. Salvy

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    No, because Democrats are still American even thou hate this country I would 100% be against Trump for this.... Of course there is a pathway for our citizens to get back.
     
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  2. lkrockets

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    Oh, “the you don’t know personally what Trump did so you can’t reason from sworn court filings” argument, always convincing.
     
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  3. lkrockets

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    you seem to think that unlawful removal or citizens is unlawful but unlawful removal of noncitizens is unlawful and that is not they way law works.
     
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  4. No Worries

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    If only Garcia had not photoshopped the MS13 tattoo onto his knuckles. If only.
     
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  5. Salvy

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    Of course they gave him an out, and of course Trump does not want to ask Bukele for the return of Kilmar because it sours relations with a strong political figure and an ally offering resources. I'm sure Bukele also does not want to be the main factor in this whole insane debacle. I'd be pissed if I was Bukele and Trump threw me under the bus demanding I send him back my own citizen who by the way could have crimes in El Salvador that need to be answered for.

    Its purely political, its what I been saying. Its purely chess pieces for midterms and 2028. I guarantee you Democrats don't want him back, the fear mongering would be too good in 2028.
     
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  6. No Worries

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    I stole this from @Salvy 's web cam on the down low ....

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    Aren't you assuming that egg prices come down?
     
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    You say that but in your last post you spoke about the lack of agency that Trump has to do anything short of invading El Salvador.

    So is Trump-

    -Playing games?
    -Or is the President of El Salvador more powerful than the President of the United States?

    It must be liberating to just walk around with a lack of any sort of shame in life. Just live in whatever fantasy I want to live in, and never be wrong about anything.

    ...

    I also don't know at all what you are talking about with trying to tie this story with the Democrats in 2028. Is the rule of law and obeying the Supreme Court now just libtard TDS woke nonsense??? I suspect that's what you think, and I know you obviously are pro corrupt autocracy so I know how you feel, but the voters... okay... that's an interesting case to make that having a party that follow the rule of law is going to be what gets JD Vance into the White House in 2028.

    I guess that's just saying the quiet part out loud for you.
     
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  9. Nook

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    Asking for the return of Garcia doesn't sour relations between the USA and El Salvador. The United States is PAYING Bukele to take these prisoners.

    Insane debacle? This is on the Trump administration, they have been overly zealous and sloppy in the execution of what they are doing. They have admitted they wrongly deported Garcia.

    El Salvador has the highest incarceration rate in the world, they are fine without someone that wasn't even living in El Salvador and hasn't for many years.

    This isn't just politics - not when you start violating the separation of powers.

    As for Garcia - I don't know the man, and have no idea if he is a good or bad person - and don't really overly care. I do care about the usurpation of powers by the executive branch though. It doesn't lead to good things, we say what the fall out was from the Bush power grab.
     
  10. DaDakota

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    Should have thrown Trump in jail when he was convicted, what a bunch of cowards those judges were.

    DD
     
  11. justtxyank

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    If you think he has to comply with the law then he has to comply with the law even if they aren’t citizens. The court has already ruled on this. If you don’t think the court has the right to rule on it then you don’t think any one has any legal protection. We either have rule of law or we don’t.
     
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    Andrew Jackson moments don't happen all the time.
     
  13. Space Ghost

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    Wait. You are basing your whole premise on Trump and Bukeles lack of clarity?
    Where have you been the last 10 years? Trump is captain Chaos and you're asking him to do the very thing he isn't. People like yourself get caught up in the nonsense. The public generally doesn't give a **** about Garcia. Americans are tired of the immigration issue and if a foreign nationals little egg gets broken, oh well. Keep fighting the good fight. May the TDS be with you. Wear a mask. It's the only thing preventing you from getting TDS.
     
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    Emotional MAGAs…..

    Congress could pass legislation that does exactly what all you baby nuts maga bros want…. And yet nothing.

    For whatever reason, your ilk loves to bend the knee to strongman.
     
  15. El_Conquistador

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    Citizen of El Salvador
    Terrorist
    Human Smuggler
    Wife Beater

    You'd have to be INSANE to want to bring this guy to the USA. Or very stupid.

    He will never set foot in this country again.

    GOOD DAY
     
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    Fair point, Trump never sours relations with allies.
     
  17. Amiga

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    Nay. He has no issue pissing off close allies, and Bukele isn't even a close ally.

    And that nor anything else is a valid excuse for ignoring a SCOTUS ruling (9-0).

    You either are okay with the executive ignoring a SCOTUS ruling or you are not. There isn't gray cowardice here.
     
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  18. Salvy

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    Bukele is a close ally, and it's not about pissing him off its about El Salvador countuining to take criminal immigrants...

    Trump did not ignore a Scotus rulling, bruh why you lying? It's been explained over and over yet you continue to spread misinformation.
     
  19. Amiga

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    I have not kept up with the cowardice excuses and am not interested. There isn't any grey here. You either are for following the law or not. You want it both ways, when there is not one. It's cowardice. A previous one was that Trump can't get him back because he's a weakling. And the latest one here is it's our allies that we shouldn't piss them off.
     
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  20. tinman

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    I’d rather have Democrats than Hamas terrorists
     
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