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Does Giannis have Houston and San Antonio on top of his list?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaBeard, May 5, 2025.

  1. Bobbythegreat

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    They lose every game 85-70
     
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    So the Spurs are just going to add Giannis without giving up....anything??? Make that make sense please.
     
  3. MystikArkitect

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    Finally a good free throw shooter.
     
  4. cml750

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    Let the Spurs have him. Seeing Wemby and Giannis battle it out over whose team it is will be hilarious.
     
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    Go read some Donald Trump s*** in the D&D, argue with the bots. That'll get the ole blood boiling!
     
  7. shakes05

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    I think we're going all the way in for this reason:
    Double big lineup was our best +/- all season. Having Giannis and Sengun on the court at the same time would take us next level!
    Imagine having Steven Adams/Sengun/Giannis in at the same time. You can play Reed in those situations because if he gets beat Giannis or Adams would cover for him...we just need consistent perimeter shooting.
     
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    Keep it there.
     
  9. JHarden713

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    Add Amen too

    Imagine

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    Amen
    Giannis
    Adams
    Sengun

    No-one can shoot LOL
     
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    only 2 guys who can shoot in this line up
     
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  11. shakes05

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    I think Giannis is a Udoka type player as well...he play both sides of the ball. I think we'll address our roster with getting more 3 point shooters if we get Giannis.
     
  12. Caesar

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    NBA rigged Victor to SA. Yall think they can't get Cooper and Giannis to SA this summer? If not at least get SA a top pick to use for Giannis and rig Cooper to OKC?

    Yall forget Adam Silver is/was a Knicks fan from New York and was there in 94 and still hates the Rockets for beating his Knicks. No way we will ever win on his watch.

    I also remind people that NBA inflated stats today reflect more of a 70s pre merger NBA mixed with ABA pace. That was Adam Silvers era. He grew up watching his Knicks win 2 titles in that era and it also saw small market teams win and compete for titles every year. That's what he wants the NBA to look like-his childhood era-the worst era of Basketball IMO and i think that's why i can't stand the NBA today. There's a reason Magic and Bird needed to save the NBA. Because the 70s sucked even in the 70s and it's no wonder the NBA is struggling and dying again while trying to resemble that same dying 70s era. It's actually worse, though, because the downfall of this era is in collab with the insufferable LeBron James and his Klutch Sports media takeover. That's not going away after retirement.
     
  13. shakes05

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    This lineup fits Udoka's philosophy of physical basketball. Unfortunately, we can't build a team with great shooters if they soft...Udoka would have a piss fest every post-game interview:
    "Shot the ball well, but we soft. They punk us" lol
     
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    Idk man these new era (with the Rockets) included are about defense, size, youth and coaching. It seems to bring the interest in the NBA back, especially defense. I certainly like and prefer this type of basketball than the small ball, touch-fouls and 150-135 games.
     
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  15. Caesar

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    He's got his mid range face up on point now, BUT you do this trade with a 5 year window. That's a big window. Just because our team is young doesn't mean we have some 20 year window. Historically it's extremely rare teams like we have now turn into champions and contenders for many years to come. In fact, i can't recall a single example especially from a team with a top 3 seed so young and losing in the first. I'd wager that did more harm to our future outlook than if we were the 6th seed and lost in the first and improved every year. Even then the young team si have in mind had a top 20 player ever. We don't even have a top 100.
    At best we could have a team full of lower tier All-Stars like the Bad Boys 2.0 and even they only managed 1 title in all those ECF appearances in a very weak EAST. If our team was in the weak East, i'd be down to stay put, but the West is just always more competitive and i don't see our team having that IT player that can push them all the way.

    Giannis is top 20 all time.
     
  16. Caesar

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    Oh no, for sure, i liked our brand of basketball and how the media cried we were too physical. Keeping scores around 100 feels far more intense start to finish making every basket count, but as a whole people are raving about these playoffs, and all i see are tons of 3s still and no resistance layups and huge point swings. It's not fun for 3 quarters. There have been some very entertaining closing moments and clutch shots, but the games were still in the high 120s-140s and took huge comeback swings to even make it happen. The swings 3 pt reliance creates is ruining the game, but i still dont like how just putting in effort is now seen as defensively intense. Not being a matador is good enough for todays NBA. I don't see all out effort on that side of the court like we used to. I don't see pride in it anymore.

    But, yes. Rockets style is far better for the NBA, so maybe we do have a Bad Boys 2.0 thing going on for us.
     
  17. Caesar

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    Once upon a time, Brook was a soft big shooting face up mid range shots then he became a sniper form 3. Marc and even Pau. Ibaka. There's many examples of bigs and non shooters in general(Kidd) who became not just reliable, but actually high level 3 pt shooters. It's actually my go-to example to prove to kids that older generation players can just train up in a few summers to fit in the modern NBA, BUT most i have in mind were solid with deep mid range. Obviously not on the move, but given enough training, there's no reason a professional basketball player can't be relied on to hit a spot up open 3 AND YET there are so many examples of those who just never get it down. I mean i've watched Alpy and Bobi nailing 3s in practice/shoot around and yet they cant hit them in game.
    I can easily see someone like Luc Longley or Charles Oakley stretching out some steps back and becoming reliable 3 pt shooters, but why can't so many others? Otis Thorpe likely wouldn't adapt. Juwan Howard would. Why? I think b/c they trained inside-out. They practiced further and further away from the basket while some of these bigs are just skipping the mid range accuracy straight to 3 point training. I mean there's guys with jacked up shooting forms that are reliable or great from 3, but if a player can't shoot a mid range shot, he can't make the 3 consistently. Maybe 1 good shooting season, but then back to bad the next. I think of LeBron in that way where he can actually be good for a bit, but then he sucks the next year from deep. Inconsistent bc he never could shoot consistently from anywhere.

    Also, i agree with the guy you replied to that we do need a shot creator with Giannis. Just adding Giannis to this team aint cutting it. That's why i want Book also to team with Giannis. We'd lose a lot of depth to get both, so i'd want to keep Reeds shooting at least, but i cant see Ime playing Book and Reed on the floor at the same time ever so we'd likely see Book as PG and Amen at the 2.
    KD may be a temporary solution, but i fear we'd be going the wrong way in terms of age. 37 year old KD signing for cheap is one thing, trading important pieces for a 37 year old KD that couldn't lead PHX to the play in? I'd pass. At this point KD is better off on someone like SA. I still really like KD too. Always have even for being a b**** and going to GS, but i blame LeBron going to Miami for KD having no choice but to do that. Bron and KD were supposed to be Magic nad Bird level rivalry for their careers and Bron made the first b**** move. KD had to one up to stay in competition bc he knew OKC wasnt good enough to beat that Miami superteam and they've been one upping each other in team ups ever since with LeBron being the smarter more calculated one teaming up with 2 way stars(other than Kyrie and Klove-but those Cavs had defensive role players and defensive minded coach) vs KD teaming with offensive only stars and not caring who coached. Kd just wanted to ball. Bron wanted to chase a ghost.
     
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    Booker is not leaving PHX. People need to stop with that line of thinking. The guy just donated $7.5M to build a children's shelter in Phoenix, and is incredibly immersed in the community there. He has literally gone on record to say that he intends to retire a Sun. Ishbia has committed to rebuilding around Booker, and has made it known that he is not available in trade talks. Unless we're willing to overpay like crazy, I don't think there's any way for us to get him here.
     
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    Yes and we shouldn’t want him anyway.
     
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    You make a really good point here, but a better thing to look at (other than midrange game) is just free throws. Free throws always have been and always will be the thing that correlates highest with ability to shoot 3s. Lopez is a career 80% free throw shooter, he even had a season at 87%. Marc Gasol was another great example that you gave, 8 seasons without shooting 3s at all, then decided to practice and became a floor spacer. 78% career free throw shooter and in his prime he was well over 80%. Ibaka was also a great free throw shooter. I'll add another name in here - Channing Frye, same thing. It's a big reason I'm low on Sengun ever figuring out the 3 point shot. A lot of people are confident, and talk about it as in inevitability, "once he becomes a 3 point shooter...". But his free throws tell a different story. The free throws usually tell the story.
     

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