If they think we'll be mourning in silence because they kill a bunch of innocent people, then they really haven't learned much about us at all, if they ever knew much to begin with. assclown the american....great.
It sounds like ABC is trying to verify the tape with the CIA and FBI. That's better than CBS which didn't verify other documents. I don't really see a problem with what ABC has done.
Are you trying not to understand Kerry's position and plan of action for dealing with the terrorists, or are you just innocently mistaken, and don't understand it for some reason? I'm serious. If there is a valid reason for you so misunderstanding Kerry's position, then I will be happy to try and help explain it. If you are purposely trying to not understand Kerry's position, that doesn't make Kerry or anybody else look bad other than you.
Max, I just sat through ABC News to see if Peter Jennings would have anything to say about this. Now, I could have missed it, because I wasn't in front of the TV the entire 22 minutes. Did Jennings say anything about this? Is it being kept off of their own news broadcast, but being talked about somewhere else? Odd. I hope there is nothing to it. Keep D&D Civil!!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A3742-2004Oct27.html Alleged Terror Tape Gives ABC Pause News Division Delays Airing Video as FBI, CIA Evaluate By Howard Kurtz Washington Post Staff Writer Thursday, October 28, 2004; Page C01 It has all the makings of an incendiary story: a chilling pre-election videotape featuring a supposed member of al Qaeda, declaring in English that "blood will run red in the streets of America." The problem, say ABC News executives, is that they can't determine whether the tape, obtained by a producer, involves a real threat -- or even the identity of the figure on it, a man wearing an ammunition belt and a headdress that obscures his face. The network enlisted the aid of the FBI and CIA but still can't authenticate the 75-minute videotape. ABC reporter Brian Ross: "I'd love to have the exclusive, but first we'd like to get it right." (Donna Svennevik -- Abc) "We're not quite there to broadcast something that would be quite frightening," investigative reporter Brian Ross said yesterday. "I'd love to have the exclusive, but first we'd like to get it right." ABC was put in the awkward position of defending its insistence on fully checking out the story after the Drudge Report posted a huge online headline: "ABC News Holds Terror Warning Tape." A network producer obtained the tape over the weekend from an intermediary in Pakistan -- who charged a $500 transportation fee -- and ABC's New York headquarters got a feed of the video Monday, network executives said. They said they sent copies to the FBI and CIA, which have been unable to identify the speaker -- who says he is an American and is brandishing automatic weapons -- after comparing his voice to those of known terrorists. ABC hired two linguists who concluded that English was not the speaker's native tongue. For example, he cited the country of Yemen as "the Yemen." "The dilemma is that we have an individual identified only as 'Assam the American' -- we have no idea who that is," said Christopher Isham, ABC's chief of investigative projects. The unidentified man addresses his threats to "my fellow countrymen." In weighing the evidence, ABC staffers are mindful of the problem at CBS News, which has apologized for rushing on the air with disputed documents about President Bush's National Guard service. Ross and other ABC staffers say they believe that a Bush administration official leaked the story to Internet gossip Matt Drudge as a way of pressuring the network into airing the tape, which would heighten concerns about terrorism in the final week of the president's reelection campaign. They note that whoever gave the information to Drudge had a transcript of the tape. One counterterrorism official said the tape shows the man "just ranting and raving." Another federal official with knowledge of the matter said that government agencies are pleased that ABC shared the tape and relieved that the network is not airing it while the video is still being evaluated. The CIA is examining the tape virtually day and night, this person said. The officials, who declined to be identified because the administration is not commenting on the matter, say investigators do not believe the man on the tape is Adam Gadahn, a California-born Muslim convert identified by the FBI in May as an al Qaeda member wanted for questioning. A U.S. intelligence official said it is possible the tape was produced by an al Qaeda unit called Sahab Production Committee because the video bears the committee's recognizable logo and has been edited and spliced. The official called it "classic al Qaeda propaganda" and said the man on the tape even brings up the issue of same-sex marriage in Massachusetts. The debate may not be over. The officials say a source with access to the tape, apparently impatient with ABC, has offered it to another broadcast news organization, which has called the government for guidance. Drudge said yesterday that a political motivation behind the leak was "possible," but put the onus on ABC. "They haven't authenticated previous al Qaeda tapes before airing them," he said. "Why are they waiting to authenticate this? It's election week." But Isham noted that previous videotapes featured Osama bin Laden or other al Qaeda leaders who could be verified by sight. "It's either a well-done hoax or a tremendous news story," Ross said. "We're not going to get stampeded." Staff writers John Mintz, Dana Priest and Susan Schmidt contributed to this report.
This is our biggest problem, they don't seem to understand how we are going to react, and we seem to have the same problem. It is a cultural war, and neither culture really GETS what the other one is about. If they attacked us again, and they might, all it will do is cause the most powerful nation in the world to become even more belligerent in it's pursuit of these terrorist criminals. If the Middle East continues to be a hot bed for Terrorism, then the US will have no choice but to root out the problem. It was ok when they were blowing each other up, but to be blowing up people all over the world because they do not share a belief system is crazy, and can not be tolerated in a free and civilized world. Al Queda may bring down Syria, Iran, Libya, the Sudan, etc..etc..etc.. but maybe that is their plan anyway. DD
Sounds like the tape has been authenticated as legit by our authorities. ============================== XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX THU OCT 28, 2004 10:44:01 ET XXXXX CIA, FBI AUTHENTICATE NEW QAEDA TERROR TAPE; ABCNEWS EXECUTIVES CONSIDER POLITICAL IMPLICATIONS OF AIRING **Exclusive** The CIA and FBI late Wednesday authenticated a disturbing new al Qaeda videotape which warns the next terror attack will dwarf 9/11. "The streets will run with blood," and "America will mourn in silence" because they will be unable to count the number of the dead, a man claims on the video. Further claims on the video: America has brought this on itself for electing George Bush who has made war on Islam by destroying the Taliban and making war on Al Qaeda. ABCNEWS obtained the tape from a source in Waziristan, Pakistan over the weekend. The network has withheld airing it, initially citing concerns over its authenticity. One senior federal official alleged ABCNEWS is now holding back from broadcasting any portion of the video out of fear it will be seen as a political move by the network during election week. One ABC source, who demanded anonymity, said Thursday morning, the network was struggling to find a correct journalistic "balance." "This is not something you just throw out there while people are voting," the ABC source explained. A second ABC source told DRUDGE Thursday morning: "ABCNEWS has shared this tape with both the CIA and the FBI as part of our reporting process. ABC News is committed to accurate, credible and complete journalism and is applying the same scrutiny to this tape that we apply to all raw information. ABCNEWS continues to report this story aggressively." MORE The terrorist's face is concealed by a headdress, and he speaks in an American accent, making it difficult to identify the individual. The tape appears to be from al-Qaeda's media liaison organization. It has a banner crediting the Sahab Production Committee. The speaker refers to Bin Ladin and Zawahiri as "our leaders" and praises the 11 September attacks. Intelligence officials believe: Videotape message likely produced in late summer '04 due to references to current events such as the 9/11 Commission. Individual is college educated, either American born or raised in the U.S. The U.S. is actively seeking to identify the individual. Adam Gadhan - aka Adam Pearlman of Southern California - remains the chief candidate but another still unknown individual may be possible. Pearlman was highlighted by the FBI in May as an individual most likely to be involved in or have knowledge of the next al Qaeda attacks. US intelligence officials say the danger is that if this individual is an American citizen, he will be immersed in the culture and customs and have the ability to travel in America freely and unnoticed. Developing... http://www.drudgereport.com/abct1.htm
Just a side note: I believe it was Princeton that just released a study that shows that the president's approval ratings jump 2.3 to 3% every time the terror warning goes up
I was wrong, it's Cornell. Every terror warning raises Bush's approval rating 3 percentage points: study SYRACUSE, N.Y. (AP) - When the U.S. government issues a terror warning, President George W. Bush's approval rating increases an average of nearly three percentage points, a Cornell University sociologist said. "The social theories predict it and anecdotally we know it to be true. Now we have statistical science to confirm it," said Robb Willer, assistant director of Cornell's Sociology and Small Groups Laboratory. On average, a terror warning prompted a 2.75-percentage-point increase in Bush's approval rating the following week, said Willer, who published his study in Current Research in Social Psychology, a peer-reviewed online journal. http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/WarOnTerrorism/2004/10/26/686414-ap.html
No. The radical terrorists want to say they have so much power they influenced the election. Your mind reading kung fu stinks.
The Bushies proved this versus McCain and later versus Gore and are attempting to pull this off versus Kerry. You only have to fool a few people to make a difference, they got most of their base completely fooled. The Bushies just go bigger and bigger with the lies. The audaciousness is amazing. But that must just be god telling them what to do.
This forum is even harder to read than usual. I can' wait until the election is over. If anyone is actually concerned about this stuff, I would think you shouldn't be. If those **********s are going to try and hit us, there not going to warn us about it. They'll just do it and then gloat afterwards. This is just a lame ass scare tactic. Mourning in silence? My ass. **** off freaks.
Another one: http://reuters.myway.com/article/20...TRIDST_0_NEWS-SECURITY-QAEDA-BINLADEN-DC.html Jazeera TV Says to Air Bin Laden Video Tape Email this Story Oct 29, 3:09 PM (ET) DUBAI (Reuters) - Arab satellite television Al Jazeera said on Friday it would broadcast a video tape from al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden addressing the American people. It said the tape, to be aired at 4 p.m. EDT, would discuss the reasons behind the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the United States and their repercussions. It gave no further details.
