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I’m appreciative for all that Ime has done but I honestly believe

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by mac_got_this, May 6, 2025.

  1. topfive

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    Not just any 2 seed, but one filled with really young guys.

    And not just any 7 seed, but one with a massive playoff resume filled with experienced playoff vets.

    DD, you're smart enough to know this was not a normal situation. I still think we should've won, but c'mon.
     
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  2. mac_got_this

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    Agreed but his flaws can be addressed. Now’s not the time to be stubborn or egotistical
     
  3. ROXTXIA

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    We went 7 games. Not exactly spanked. Against a team with Steph Curry, Jimmy Butler, and a great defensive player in Draymond. Lot of experience.

    Should we have won? Yes.

    Does Ime stick too closely to certain players? Yes.
     
  4. DaDakota

    DaDakota Rockets forever!
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    I am 100% sure that if we had played Reed, Holiday and Cam all year - we would have been better prepared, Ime overvalues defense - we need balance......

    We need HIGH IQ and HIGH SKILLED players -- right now we run too many out there that aren't that bright as far as bball IQ Goes.

    Jabari, Tari, Jalen

    None of which is really a high bball IQ player.

    DD
     
  5. Salvy

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    They just not good enough
     
  6. Thrilla

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    Dang, must be that time of the month for you. Dramátic much?

    Everyone is entitled to their own opinión. Yours is a tad bit hyperbolic.
     
  7. glimmertwins

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    ...just as you are entitled to your own bad take - or as you would say, "bad také"

    How is it hyperbolic? Take the team part out of it and just compare our starters to the starters on every playoff team and tell me who the best players are in that series today and I will promise you that most of the best players in the series belong to the other teams. That's why we overachieved as a team in the West because in a vacuum, it's not hyperbolic to say if you had to start a playoff team to win a series today and your life depended on it, most would prefer to have Morant/Bane/JJJ or Jokic/Murray/Gordon/KPJ, or Harden/Kawhi/Powell/Zubats or Lebron/Luka, or Curry/Butler/Draymond, over Sengun/Amen/Jalen. Again, this isn't to say we are not good or won't one day be good - it's to say we aren't yet in the same class as true playoff contenders. The fact we were a 2 seed with this many flawed players on the roster is a story of individuals coming together to be a better version of themselves and that's what a good coach does...but individually - we are NOT a collection of high level NBA players - at least not yet.
     
  8. coachbadlee

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    You know what mac, I don't think you got this.
     
  9. coachbadlee

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    People who blame Ime don't know basketball. They are just a bunch of casuals.
     
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  10. Thrilla

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    I can't take you seriously when you are being the grammar police. I have a Colombian phone. Také sure does look like take. Not my problem that you can't make this connection. Excluding Jalen, calling Bari and Sheppard busts is hyperbolic. You even say they are not high level yet. Which is it? Are they still developing or busts? A team of busts would not have won 52 games in the west on coaching and effort alone.

    Ime deserves credit, for sure, but the players as well, and both deserve some critisism. It's not so black and white.

    Salud!
     
  11. lkrockets

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    FWW I think some of what folks see when they say "Ime can't coach offense" is that he ends up subordinating offensive talent and cohesive offensive groups to defensive talent and cohesive defensive groups. It's not always a scheme defect so much as a conscious personnel decision. And if it's the latter then I think you have to engage on the merits as to whether the personnel decision is the right one - and on that front I think Ime has a pretty strong argument.
     
  12. daywalker02

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    That is a casual way of saying things, Casual Lee.

     
  13. highpost1388

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    What kind of offense can be constructed from 1 guy who can shoot the 3 (kinda), 1 guy who can control his dribble, and 1 creator with a bunch of athletes and inconsistent players?

    Going all in on offensive rebounding was genius and it almost got us out of the first round after we were in the pits of hell for four years. Get real.
     
  14. dmoneybangbang

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    I am 100% sure you are just wishcasting.... How can you even know we'd make the playoffs if we just went ahead and gave Reed, Holiday, and Cam minutes?
     
  15. hlmbasketball

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    Like I said earlier, I think Ime had a big hand in this Playoff series lost! Beforehand, it was well known, documented, whatever that Jalen has struggled against GS both past and present.

    Just this yr, he has had games of 7, 8, 14 and 21. Only one game where he hit his avg. So why not have Cam ready to play? Or Holiday?

    Every player has had another player or team that they struggle against. Unfortunately, for Jalen it was GS in his first ever Playoff series. Those are the breaks! But in hindsight, Ime or the other coaches should have been aware and prepared.

    Ime never made any adjustments during the WHOLE SERIES, EVEN WHEN THEY WERE DOWN 3-1. Hopefully, In the future he see the need for adjustments
     
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    Playing them 10-15mpg is not going to have that much of an impact, and you extend the minutes when they do well, Ime is like Tom Thibedeaux, he will run his favorites into the ground, even if they aren't really good offensive players.

    In the end, the object is to score the ball, we didn't have a single elite scorer in our rotation, not one.

    DD
     
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    Based on what? We could have ended up playing Reed and Cam 15 MPG and they still suck and are not able to make an actual impact.

    This isn’t our “final form”, in fact I would argue this was still a transition season where we are figuring out the roster. This was our first truly competitive season and we objectively overachieved.

    And I do understand the object of the game of basketball, which is why we had a high net rating. I think you are just a bit impatient and unrealistic.
     
  18. Os Trigonum

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    hashtag not even swag champs
     
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    What do you expect? It was a casual observation.
     
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    The é was a joke I was trying to make but clearly the language made a difference there.

    I don't see how calling Jalen, Bari, Sheppard a bust is hyperbolic - look at where those guys are on any redraft today. They are significantly lower than where any of them were actually drafted. That's a bad pick....they can still end up being good players eventually but as of today all those look like draft misses relative to where they were drafted. I feel like what you consider a "bust" and what I consider a "bust" are different but as of today those all look like pretty big misses in the draft where you would rather have drafted several players before the player we actually took. I'm not saying they will fail as players - I'm saying our front office failed in those picks. It was a bust.

    Yes, Ultimately time will tell - not about to say Reed is never going to be good, but the point in my statement earlier was that the Rockets made a lot of picks over the last 4 years and missed on ALL three of their top 3 picks and yet somehow they are a 2 seed with those guys along with a bunch of castaways from other teams. Toronto's young players didn't like Fred so they didn't even attempt to resign him, Brooks was scapegoated by his old Memphis team for their loss to Lebron the previous year(and not Ja's antics that got him suspended), Adams was supposedly done as a player because of persistent injuries, etc. This was a great coaching job even with a disappointing loss to Golden State. It's just to say without looking into the future of what these players may become - TODAY this a team that appears to be greater than the sum of it's parts.
     

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