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Does Giannis have Houston and San Antonio on top of his list?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaBeard, May 5, 2025.

  1. Hemingway

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    Amen is a future superstar. He is going to make at least 2nd team all defense if not 1st team even though he only started half the season. If Giannis wants out, it won’t take 2 of our core and all the frp’s for him. Nobody can match the quality of FRP’s we have. You don’t know basketball at all or are just trolling.
     
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    So says the loser who cried and begged for Harden all of last summer and all season long.
     
  3. Hemingway

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    If Sengun is included in the trade there is no one in the NBA that will match our offer. I’m not sure I want to do that, but it is a fact. It is really up to Giannis. If he demands a trade to the Rockets, we can get him for less than what you would expect. If Sengun is involved in the trade, we would have a real hole at Center. Giannis does not want to play center and Adams would be a horrendous fit on a team that wants to run. If we get Giannis we are all in on a fast paced offense and will need to jettison FVV and figure out a way to get shooters that are also athletic and decent ball handlers. Sengun and 3 picks for Giannis. Jalen and 1 good pick for John Collins and Sexton. Center by committee. Amen, Sexton, Giannis, Collins, Jabari. If you could just do it for FVV, Jalen and 4 picks that would be better, but you would be depending on Reed being able to step up. Amen, Reed, Giannis, Jabari, Sengun. Use the other pick and Dillon for a backup shooter with athleticism (can be backcourt or frontcourt).
     
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  4. cdastros

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    I don't think the Rockets are willing to trade Amen for Giannis. I can see the bucks valuing Castle over Sengun.
     
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    Amen is the only player on the Rockets I think the bucks would value over Castle. Plus I think Giannis would rather team up with Wemby and Fox over Amen.
     
  6. Bo6

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    You guys that want to put all 3 of Amen, Giannis, and Sengun on the floor at the same time are out of your mind. I think I'd rather drink cyanide then try to watch 82 games of that.

    I have a hard time thinking both Amen and Giannis can live together... you would need to deal Sengun in the deal. Probably something like Sengun + Cam + #9 gets us close. Reluctant to throw in another pick, we need those to build our contender. It's really tough but you have to consider that if Giannis goes to SA then we probably aren't winning **** for the next 5 years. Giannis + Wemby is an absolutely ridiculous combination that the entire league should be scared about.

    Jalen / Reed
    Brooks / Holliday
    Amen / Tari
    Giannis / Jabari
    Lopez / ???


    That's a decent team with some flexibility. Need to sign a backup 5 though. Ime would need to prioritize playing Giannis and Jabari at the 4/5 to really get a lot of the lineups. Jalen at the 1 seems suspect but when you think that Amen and Giannis are going to have the ball in their hands a lot then it's not that dramatic. Whenever Reed is ready to take the next step you bench Brooks.
     
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  7. Mathloom

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    People think we’re playing NBA2k where you put your best players on the court and it will just work out. That’s what happened to the Phoenix Suns. There’s a reason why Milwaukee has had TWO stretch 5’s for the entirety of Giannis’ success. It never ever worked with a non-shooting big on the floor with him.

    We already have a massive problem of 2 non-shooters on the floor. To put 3 non-shooters on the floor is ending the championship window and will inevitably result in the need to tank again.

    Even Amen and Giannis would be a disaster unless you want Amen to become a role player again. It’s a bet on whether Amen will develop a jumper before Giannis becomes useless (maximum 3 years). For what? So we can sit here and hope Amen and Giannis can make finesse midrange jumpers at a higher rate than Tatum, Doncic, Jokic and SGA can score? That’s the plan to watch Giannis and Amen take midrange and floaters as our big weapon?

    Did we really tank 4 years so that we end up cashing in all our chips for a team that has 2 non-shooters on the floor - something every successful team is avoiding like the plague? If we were happy with a hard ceiling of conference finals we didn’t need to tank at all.

    Amen is unlikely to develop a good enough jumper before Giannis’ decline. Sengun is more likely to develop a 3PT shot in less than 2 years. If we’re serious about winning, then we would have to trade our best prospect (Amen) for Giannis. That’s a crazy risky bet to give up the next 6+ ascending years of Amen for the next 3 declining years of Giannis.

    If we trade Sengun for Giannis, in 1.5 years we’ll need to trade Giannis at half the price we paid for him and we’ll have nothing to show for it.

    I advise everyone to go look at the last 20 years of championship rosters so you understand that if your shooting sucks that bad you're not winning anything.
     
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    Don't the Spurs have 2 lotto picks? I imagined Mil would want those

    Does Giannis even see us as a playoff team depending on how much it will cost. He might not see the point if we gut half the team

    Spurs can at least keep their team more intact offering lotto picks + more
     
  9. J.R.

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    Cities like Los Angeles, New York, Miami, and maybe Chicago could appeal to Giannis Antetokounmpo, per @HowardBeck.

    “I poked around a little bit a few days ago and the initial thing I got from one person was just like some rumblings that it’s already just the big cities: One of the LA teams or one of the New York teams or maybe Miami, not a big market, but a glamour market, mid-size market. I think they threw Chicago in there. I can’t remember if Houston came up. It should. So first is like where does Giannis want to go and do they honor that? Because again, back to Damian Lillard, you’re not obligated to honor it.” (Via http://buff.ly/ubpBsb6)

     
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    The more I think about it the more I just don't want Giannis at all. The fit with our guys just doesn't work no matter who we give up. It would basically mean giving up on all of our promising players to make a roster that fits around Giannis. In theory I would love to give up anyone on this roster for a player of Giannis' caliber, just not Giannis specifically. He is hard to build around and requires a very specific team around him for it to work, we have tons of evidence of this over the past decade in Milwaukee, and we can't put the right team around him. I just don't see it.

    I also don't really see why Giannis would want to come here. When superstars demand trades, it's all about who they want to play with. Harden wanted to play with KD and Kyrie, PG wanted to play with Kawhi, Dame wanted to play with Giannis. Stars choose their destination because they want to team up. Who does Giannis want to play with? We've got two potential young stars and neither of them can shoot the basketball. Do we really think Giannis wants to come play with Amen Thompson or Sengun (depending on the trade)? I'm not seeing that either.
     
  11. A00man

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    This right here. Modern twin towers. It's worked with Hakeem. It's worked with Duncan. The current version would be great. We already showed that Sengun and Adams can be efficient. Now imagine replacing Adams with Giannis. Sengun and Giannis on on both sides would be a nightmare for teams to focus on. The defense with Giannis and Amen would be insane. We would need to round it out with 2 dead eye shooters which FVV and Jabari can be with the amount of attention the others would draw.

    Amen, get working on your shot during the summer. Also, time to get Reed some real rotational minutes. The team would be contenders for years to come.
     
  12. topfive

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    Nah, you're good. I just got triggered by the Morey multi-star concept. :D
     
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    Is this on the 2 yard line yet?

    I am bored out of my mind here.
     
  15. JayGoogle

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    I think Giannis and Amen can work perfectly fine.

    Amen is like Giannis even, you can give them space but what you're really doing when you do that is you are giving them a runaway to the rim.

    You would need to find a stretch big for sure but I wonder how the lineup might work with Jabari being the other big.

    At the end of the day it comes down to cost. If the cost is right, you do it and you figure out the lineup later. I think Amen and Giannis on the court would basically mean good luck scoring for the other team...

    Plus I can't stress this enough, great players MAKE other players better. Giannis is a great player, he's going to make the young guys we have left better once they see his dedication and work ethic. Amen will get better being around him and so will other guys.

    My whole thing is don't gut the team for him.

    Sengun OR Jalen, FVV for contract match, and maybe tari or something idk, but two prospects generally I'd say.
     
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    he has a blue check so i can confirm he's legit
     
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    I also have a blue check.
     
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    Giannis is a player that you technically need to build a perfect roster around, the problem with these types of superstar trades is that you have to be successful, because you are giving your future, and suddenly 2 years later you are left with a trash roster and no draft picks.
     
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    Lol the media wants to get a lot of clicks obviously so they just rumored the big markets ranked by size. You know it's whack because LA teams have no chance whatsoever of getting him and Giannis has no leverage.

    He has his final 3 years on contract, if you outbid other teams you will get him. The Bucks just extended the GM also, so he's under no threat.

    God forbid one summer passes without a big name being rumored to go to a big market. How else would they keep their ratings afloat? Actual journalism? Haha
     
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  20. JayGoogle

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    I also don't know what to believe as to where he wants to know and will just ignore most stories in the end but if he wants that we'll see what happens.

    But the media LOVES to also try to speak it into existence that these players want to go to NYC or LA for literally EVERY player and half the time it is right to be sure but sometimes its just wishful thinking for them.

    I don't see that with Giannis, never been a big media guy, I could see it with Antman, he likes the attention. I could see him going to NY or LA one day, but I'm thinking Giannis will want to go wherever he thinks will have the best chance to win championshipS. I don't think he's a brand guy and he might just end up staying in Milwaukee in the end.
     

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