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Jalen Green single handily cost us this series

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by astros123, May 4, 2025.

  1. ThaRavenOfSanJack

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    A 7 seed who won 4 games less than us on the year...
     
  2. Holybats

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    Also with Butler they are better than #7.
     
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  3. James Harden Stepback 3

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    It’s the warriors. I consider it a failure.
     
  4. ThaRavenOfSanJack

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    I feel like it can be several things at once....a coaching loss, an inexperience loss, a Jalen loss, an abysmal-teamwide-total-shooting-failure, a more or less complete Failure to Launch, or really even show up...a bitter takeaway meal of rancid stale Curry with a side of maggoty Donkey for Rockets fans to gag on til October, a wake-up call, a non-surprising ironic non-plot-twist, all of these things, it is
     
  5. Joe Rocket

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    They would be 2nd seed if they started with Butler.
     
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  6. Joe Rocket

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    Who cares what you b****es consider it. Youre feeling down on yourself instead of realizing this year means we have a bright future.
     
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  7. ThaRavenOfSanJack

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    You don't think 21, 12, 5, and 2 is GREAT for a 1st-ever playoff series? Alpi posted averages only ONE guy has ever matched.
    1 guy. From French Lick...
     
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  8. James Harden Stepback 3

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    Becuase it’s kind of embarrassing if one person (Stephen Curry) owns the city because this trash franchise can’t beat golden state in one single playoff series?
     
  9. ThaRavenOfSanJack

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    As do I, as I am a Rockets fan and therefore will never get enough Warriors' tears. But it's not some huge upset. 2 through 10 seeds were historically close in record this year, and the Dubs saw us more this season than ANY team played ANY OTHER team since the merger ( meanining since before I was born, and most on this thread were either), meaning they had ample opportunity to gameplan/bribe refs/plot Donkey's cheating, etc , as veteran teams are wont to do, and do so much more effectively than a squad of elite athletes hungry for success but burly old enuff to buy a beer....
    This series loss SHOULDN'T define our franchise's direction, we still need to see the Big Picture.
    And I agree that the Big Picture probly looks better without Jalen, but he doesnt need to be gone next week for gym socks in a kneejerk freakout overreaction....as many posters astutely noted, most GM's dont watch many Rockets games, and in their minds he'll have decent value by December...
     
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    I am still amazed by how there are still many people believe Jalen can be a superstar....literally what the hell...
     
  11. James Harden Stepback 3

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    We need to start working on reed asap. He’s already a fan favorite with probably the biggest offensive ceiling in the team.
     
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    Facts, and a second seed that would be a first seed in most seasons (if their record post-Butler stood for a season). That's a 60-win team.

    Not making excuses for our young guys, and especially not Jalen. But all the people trying to argue that our entire season is a failure and we need to make short-sighted panic moves are either young, want to get instant gratification like on 2K, or are so upset they can't see sense.
     
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    How does he own the city? Because he plays basketball well? Because of the history? Most of the time, nobody in Houston is even thinking of Steph Curry. I can guarantee our players and organization isn't--they're probably focused on internal improvements and trying to figure out what to do with Jalen going forward.

    If you think the franchise is trash, then you're free to take a break from supporting them until they're good enough to make you happy. I think you're being a little bit dramatic, this is a young team that has generally overperformed that has a lot of room for roster tweaks. It's not an all-or-nothing predicament, there's nuance to building a team--and we as fans literally have no power over anything.
     
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    We shouldn’t give Jalen away. Just like Sengun it’s according to what you get in return. Jalen is 22 and to say he is all he can be with 2 coaches that have no idea how to utilize him is a huge stretch. Jalen improved this year and became serviceable as a defensive player. He also improved his 3 pt shot and mechanics. This is a poorly constructed team for a half-court offense and we have a coach that doesn’t know how to coach offense. If Jalen and picks gets you Giannis then sure let him go. If it gets you Booker hell no. Stone has the assets let’s see what he comes up. If it’s running it back and it fails both he and Ime should be fired.
     
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    I am crashing out a little bit, especially because we basically came on the verge of winning and really shot outselves in the foot.

    There are multiple positives in this series, though. We have two playoff risers, and we went and snagged a win in their home court for the first time in 2018 (we blew them out). We also have a deep roster with Cam and Shepparsbto develop.

    It’s just annoying losing to this and getting clowned on.
     
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    I feel you, I was literally pissed for a whole day afterwards, even though objectively I know there are lots of positives.

    I'm not going to fault you for being mad, I'm still not really over it either.
     
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  17. James Harden Stepback 3

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    Nothing hurts more than 2018.

    Pissed me off so much that I stopped watching basketball that year fully (barring one game vs the pistons where i got to high five harden).
     
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    i think the correct move is to move jalen to the sixth man role and give him time to improve. What he needs to develop is a pull up midrange or a floater because he doesn't have the handles of a star guard to penetrate against a good defense. We know what we have in jalen at this point. But he is still a good player. His defense is actually pretty good at times as is his rebounding. His contract isn't that bad and its short so we can always resign him on a cheaper contract longterm once that is up. you just don't give jalen away unless you get something back you really want.

    This is amens team at this point. The starting lineup needs to revolve around him and sengun. Sengun is flawed too since he won't shoot that midrange which is always available, but i think he can improve there. Dream would just shoot it in your face. i think we should just give reed and cam more chances to start next year, and that we should also look to draft a guard if a good ones available.
     
  19. Imanimal

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    We won 3 games and he was key to game 2 victory. Bad matchup for JG as GS has always known how to defend him and had his number. He didn’t help in game 7, but certainly didn’t lose the game as his stat line was more efficient in less minutes than our other starters. He would have excelled against the T-Wolves as he averages much better against that team. He is very young and like it or not the future of this franchise. You don’t score 38 points in a playoff game if you’re a total choker….just learning with a new experience and he’s got many years to improve. Remember most importantly, that without JG we aren’t in the playoffs as a two seed. His career is just beginning and will only get better with future All-Star bids and NBA titles. This team would be very wise not to trade JG or Cam Whitmore as we’ll regret it down the line.
     
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    While im not knee Jerk like a lot of guys on here as you see by my posts. I agree with them on the fact that we cannot pay everyone and if we have to trade someone out of the youth it would have to be Jalen. He is the only one behind schedule. A couple of years ago you could defend him saying what you said, however his numbers are now worse than any future superstar at this point in their career. Whereas Amen and Sengun meet or exceed those numbers Jalen is behind and that likely means he wont be a star. He is just too inconsistent even at this age. Ive never seen anyone like him at this age go on to become a star. people compared him to booker but even booker was averaging 26 in his career at this age. its just highly unlikely. theres no comp for him to become a star.
     

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