Forget Giannis, Durant, Etc. - How About Trading for Cooper Flagg?

The only way there is a trade for Flagg would be if he indicated he won't play for the team the ends up with the No. 1 pick and would rather return to college or sit out the year than sign the contract.

 

Or if a delusional clutchfan homer wants flagg, then the GM of the lottery winning team will make it happen.

 

Neither Amen or Sengun are good enough to win multiple playoff rounds this year. Plus the team, rotations, and offensive systems have too many flaws beat multiple elite teams 4 times.

We have to remember that GSW is likely not close to being a real contender this year.

 

I think something like sengun, tari, filler, 2 premium 1sts, 2 other 1sts would be reasonable.

 

Im saying I don't understand why we are trying to get Cooper Flagg. We should be getting more experienced star talent like Giannis.

GSW would be a top 4 seed easily if they had Jimmy Butler all season. They went like 21-7 since signing him to 2 years 120 million contract. Don't forget when we were the 2nd seed early in the season GSW without Butler was literally like 28-26 and were looking at potentially missing the playoffs.

 

And then the Rockets petition to either get rid of the 3 pt line or change the NBA rules to where each team gets to draw their own 3 point line as they wish kind of like MLB baseball parks with walls and HR distances.

 

Depends on who gets the #1. If it’s the Wizards, they might bite at something like Sengun, Reed, and 3 picks. Instead of a potential-star rookie, they can get a true rebuild going with an All-Star, a (supposedly) top prospect, and a handful of picks. You’d likely have to throw Jalen or Jabari in there, too. Charlotte might bite on something like that, too. Still a really long shot.

 

Because we want to win in the future as well....lmao. What is there not to understand.

You are rebuilding to win in the future. I don't really care about furkin win now Udoka.

Udoka has to fall in line and the team is not named Houston Udokas.

 

Hey, why don't we trade this pile of bus station "Be Saved!" pamphlets and hotel nightstand Gideon's Bibles for a Gutenburg Bible? Or is that too much to give up?

 

This is a near impossible trade to make because the drop off after Flagg is significant and he seems ready to contribute now. If you had a draft where there is more uncertainty like we had in 2022 w Jabari, Chet, and Paulo you can move up a couple of spots in drafts like that. You could entertain that in the 2021 draft as well. Drafts w Wemby and Flagg, you are not going to convince a team to trade you four quarters for a dollar.

You need a guy to build around like Flagg, the Rockets tanked for years and even are drafting in the lotto two years after tanking and still don't have that guy (5 years in a row of drafting in the lotto), that is how hard it is to find them, and why teams don't just trade them.

 

I don’t even think Nico Harrison will do that trade, so we aren’t getting Flagg unless we land the number one pick

 

Nah that wasn't my point. I was saying if Jalen was average meaning we just need an average SG to get past the first round. So we shouldn't be gunning for Cooper who would be raw and we would have to continue our rebuild. Jalen needs to go 100% but I wouldn't go for Cooper either in this case.

We go for someone like Giannis or Booker who are proven NBA stars to pair with Amen and Sengun. Deep playoff runs will help our players develop even more than they already are.

 

i mean the mavs traded luka so maybe? probably not tho

really cant see any team ahead of us in the lottery odds that would trade this pick.
utah for sure aint passing up on a white kid named cooper

 

So just to add some historical context to legitmately answer the OP, to trade up to get a top four pick or #1 pick which is very rare, you need to be in the top 3 or 4 or near position already yourself plus other assets. So if we get a top four pick it's humanly possible but not probable.

Picks on the Move: 23 Years of Draft Trade Precedent

 

But you aren't sacrificing your future. We would still have Amen and Sengun going into their prime as Giannis is exiting his. Giannis would give us 4-5 years of championship contention while our stars develop into their own through battle-tested playoff series.

Im so confused on what our objective is. Are we trying to have another year of first round exit because we don't have a star/closer? Is Jalen or anyone of these players going to suddenly develop into a closer in one offseason?

 

I've posted in other threads. Getting a player like Giannis is great and all, but he fits only like 2-3 players in the rotation. It take a lot of picks/players to get him plus the multiple other moves to build a competitive team. You get at best a 4 year window and than are back to rebuilding.

They did do well after Butler, but most of those Jan/Feb games were against bad or middling teams -- mostly EC ones. Also their last 12 games, they were 7-5. Last 6, 3-3. The only teams left in the playoffs that GSW played after getting Butler were Denver (1-1) and Knicks (2-0).

Also Curry and Butler won't last long, if they are having to play 40+ minutes a game every other day for the next 3 weeks. That is something Curry has basically never done.

 

Dude, I get Giannis but give up on Flagg.....that would be a cardinal sin..... Flagg every day. 24/7

Dybantsa and Cameron Boozer as well.

But yeah ideally you have to check out if Flagg is offensively gifted, I haven't watched that many games of him......doesn't make sense if his Offense need heavy development.

Udoka is not that guy.

 

What do you mean he fits like 2-3 players in the rotation? A lineup of FVV, Amen, Brooks, Sengun, Giannis would be similar to our double big lineup we are already running. If they crowd the paint we can easily take out Amen or Sengun for Jabari Smith Jr. Giannis is unstoppable in the paint and he can catch lobs from Sengun or FVV off of the pick and roll. He adds a lob threat and a real defensive stopper at the center position.

And no we wouldn't go back to rebuilding in 4-5 years. We would still have Amen and Sengun who would be 27-29 and would be in their prime. I don't understand this idea that we are going to give up all of our rebuild for Giannis, it just isn't true. We have a ton of wing talent and draft picks that realistically are not going to translate into anything on a stacked playoff roster.