Further than the Rockets did with Sengun outside of this year unless tonight goes badly. Did you think you had a point?
Yeah I agree, 100% rational take. Exactly the same as what most of us have been saying. It goes like this, just to be aware: SOF's: Would you trade Sengun for Giannis/Jokic? Regular people: **** yeah straight up, but it'd take more than that so in real life I wouldn't actually trade him because of everything else we'd have to send SOF's: Arggh you all ****ing hate Alpi, you're racists, you're crazy, why don't you respect the greatest player on this team because you'd trade him for Giannis?!!! True story, happened multiple times.
So, the Bucks with Giannis couldn’t get out of the first the last years despite sacrificing their future to build around Giannis? And we should trade our best prospects and destroy our draft capital for him right before he likely starts declining? Yes, I had a point.
Find me one post where I said we should trade our "best prospects and destroy our draft capital?" Seriously? All I've ever said is I would trade either Sengun or Amen for him straight up. That's it. Pull your head out of your vagina for once and realise the conversation you're actually in.
I voted yes, but with major hesitations. Extremely reluctant, but for someone like Giannis everyone is on the table.
It's funny how different people value their own and other players. I don't know if it's already been posted, but the following was a trade proposal by The Athletic contributors a few days ago. They thought up 4 possible teams Giannis could/should go to. They said the Rockets made the most sense because they probably had the most to offer. Int this scenario the Rockets get Giannis and Jerami Grant while losing a ton of draft capital, Amen, Jalen, Cam, Jock, and Alpi in a 3-way transaction with the Bucks and Blazers. *EDIT* : No way I'd do this, btw. LOL. ______________________________________________________ Giannis to Houston Bucks get: Amen Thompson, Jalen Green, Cam Whitmore, Donovan Clingan, 2025 first (via Phoenix), 2027 first (via Phoenix), 2029 first (most favorable of Milwaukee, Portland or Washington), 2028 and 2030 Milwaukee swap rights extinguished Rockets get: Giannis Antetokounmpo, Jerami Grant Trail Blazers get: Alperen Şengün, Jock Landale Why it would (and wouldn’t) work: I’m not moving Antetokounmpo unless he asks out. I would expect the Bucks to look at every avenue for success with him over the next couple of months before it gets here. To me, Houston is the team that makes the most sense to end up with Antetokounmpo if the Bucks have to move him. The Rockets have the most assets in the league in terms of young, controllable talent outside of the Thunder, and they desperately need a No. 1 option. This deal allows them to acquire Antetokounmpo for the players that, frankly, don’t make a lot of sense on their roster when it comes to playing next to Antetokounmpo in Thompson and Şengün, the two players who also happen to have the highest trade value on the team. They also maintain enough control over their future drafts to be able to continue to build. The Bucks should have two goals in any Antetokounmpo deal: Acquire as much young, cost-controlled talent as possible and get as many of their picks back as possible. Here, in addition to the young players, they get a top-10 pick in the 2025 draft from Phoenix, another high-value Phoenix first-round pick in 2027 and then get control over all of their picks back from Portland from 2028 through 2030. The Blazers’ part in this is because they have control over Milwaukee’s first-round picks in 2028, 2029 and 2030. The 2028 and 2030 Milwaukee selections are owned via swap rights, so those are not necessarily full first-round picks, but rather they’re here as an opportunity for Milwaukee to get control over its destiny back from 2028 onward. Essentially, the Blazers get an All-Star center in Şengün for Clingan, a first-round pick in 2029 and extinguishing those swap rights with 2028 and 2030. They’re not losing picks in 2028 and 2030; they just won’t be able to swap with Milwaukee. They also get the value-add of getting off the massive Grant deal, which is one of the league’s worst contracts. — Sam Vecenie Nehm’s mock GM reaction: I still need some more in this package, but this is getting pretty close. Sam was right to get the Bucks back in control of their picks from the Blazers between 2028-30. I think that is one of the most valuable things the Bucks can acquire in any Antetokounmpo trade because getting rid of one of the best players on the planet while not controlling your picks is bad business. Any trade offer from the Rockets will require Thompson. In the packages I’ve received, there is an argument to be made that Thompson is the best asset because of his insane defensive ability, super athleticism, age and contract. But I’d be curious to see if I could also acquire Tari Eason or Jabari Smith Jr. Green is the problem in this deal. He is only 23 years old, and there still may be upside there, but his contract extension kicks in next season, and it’s unclear if he will be worth that raise. After scoring 21 points per game in the regular season, he’s put up just 14.8 points per game in the first five games of the Rockets’ series against the Golden State Warriors, and that is buoyed by a 38-point performance in Game 2. That contract extension makes the deal work financially, but I’m just not sure a player that volatile can make up such a large portion of a deal for Antetokounmpo. The Bucks need more sure things.
It’s a no for me. I have a lot of respect for the guy but he is a little too old for me. I really am inclined to just let this group of players grow together over the next couple years and maybe supplement the rotation with a single upgrade. I think we are likely to have a “superstar” emerge from our current grouping or just win a title the Pistons way. I’m not trying to sell out for one of these guys that’s already 30 or older.
This proposal is insane. It's so bad I want to downvote it, block it, erase it. What a joke. They get paid to come up with this type of nonsense.
This. We would be shrinking our championship window from 10+ years to 5. Getting Giannis does not guarantee championship!
That's what the SOF's in here don't realise. Outside of your cute little Senguntard echo-chamber, I'm not the crazy one, y'all ****ing are.
the problem I have is that these NBA pundits will have the Rockets trading Amen, Sengun, and every pick for Giannis then turn around and say Giannis to OKC for Cason Wallace, Hartenstein, and 4 picks
