But this is an absolute all time great in his absolute prime, who should age as well as anyone ever has. Even if he’s only MVP level for 3-4 more years, he’s still gonna be a top 5-10 guy for a few years after that. Giannis i get, he’s a poor fit, should age worse, and isn’t nearly as good as jokic. Saying no to jokic is beyond ludicrous though.
you'd have to offer me a superstar between 24-28 to give either Alpi or Amen. There are only 4 of those players, one of them was traded in February. Anybody over 30 and I know how it will play out. Maybe a western conference appearance after spending 2 more seasons to bring in help. Then the same people that wanted the trade will be angry at the organization when the aging superstar quits throwing sarcastic comments in the game threads of said 11th seed team.
It's not about anybody but Sengun, nobody could/would be good enough because they're not the one the "fans" are so obsessed with.
If the roles were reversed, if Giannis or Jokic were already on the Rockets, not a single person here would be campaigning to trade them for Sengun. Not one. What that tells me is there's much more at play here than just basketball. There's a real emotional attachment to Sengun, and it’s clearly coloring the conversation.
An interesting idea could be a sengun package for jokic and an amen package for giannis. That would be spicy.
No. I’m kinda out on Giannis. Jalen, Jabari, and picks would be too much for me like I keep seeing. Sounds like a train wreck in 2-3 years We will be the next team to regret a superstar trade after a couple years
It is interesting. I wonder what the answer would be if it is a Sengun for Jokic swap. Basically the same player, except Jokic is clearly better in every aspect...well maybe not perimeter defense to be fair, but he more than makes up for it with 30, 40, 50 point games and if you swap out Sengun for Jokic RIGHT NOW you have to believe this team is a frontrunner for a championship and Jokic can hit threes so that whole spacing issue isn't there with Giannis. I agree in a sense, it makes more sense to trade Sengun in this scenario since you'd be replacing him with Giannis or Sengun.
What if they want Amen because they, like so many of you, think he’s the better player. “Amen or no deal.” This dumbass Brooklyn White hemming and hawing and won’t answer the question. They want Amen. Amen must be included in any deal. Are you doing it? Dumbass Brooklyn White: well uhh I’d give them Sengun and umm well uhh Amen I don’t know. Maybe I could give them Sengun and Jabari and Reed and Cam and picks? And uhh did I mention Sengun? BWAHAHAHAHA “Jalen Green the heartbeat” LOLOLOL But really, whose alt account is this? Yes, Giannis is better than anyone we have today. Yes, unlikely anyone we have ever reaches peak Giannis. But still no. It’s not “just Amen” or “just Sengun”. You are sending out other players and picks. 2025: lost in first round to Pacers 2024: lost in first round to Pacers (he didn’t play) 2023: lost in first round to Heat (hurt back in G1, missed G2/G3, played G4/G5) 2022: lost to Celtics in Semifinals Holiday-Middleton-Tucker-Giannis-Lopez (won title) Holiday-Allen-Matthews-Giannis-Lopez (lost to Celtics 4-3 in second round) Holiday-Allen-Middleton-Giannis-Lopez (lost to Heat 4-1 in first round) Lillard-Bev-Middleton-Portis-Lopez (lost to Pacers 4-2 in first round) Lillard-Trent-Kuzma-Giannis-Lopez (lost to Pacers 4-1 in first round) 2025-26: age 31 ($54,126,450) 2026-27: 32 ($58,456,566) 2027-28: 33 ($62,786,682 — player option) 2028-29: 34 2029-30: 35 So, in the next 3-4 years, do you believe in Rafael Stone to do what the Bucks apparently have been unable or unwilling to do (since their title in 2021) and build a good enough team that can beat the Pacers err I mean get out of the West? They both need shooters. Why not put shooters around our guys who is 8 years younger? (I already said & acknowledged our guys are unlikely to ever be better than his peak, so save it!)
Giannis is an MVP level player, it will not be enough to give only Alperen or Thompson, we need to give 1-2 young talents and a few first-round picks. If we accept these and cannot be champions next season, we will lose the next 10 years. We need a real number one or Van Fleet,+sg(better then jalen)whose shooting we can trust all year and games, without damaging the team structure.
That double big lineup with Adams/Giannis/Jabari would be 2.0! Definitely would trade Sengun for Giannis in a heartbeat! I wouldn't include Amen in the deal though...
They already said they'd keep Sengun not trade him for Jokic. But apparently they're the "sane" ones and everybody else is crazy. Makes sense.
This right here. Couldn't agree more. This is what real Rockets fans have been saying all along, then they get blamed for being SOFs or AOFs.
Im betting Giannis falls off hard after a few years. His game is based on being physically superior to everyone else. Injuries will pile and his physical strength will decline. After that, he’s not a superstar anymore.
I think Amen has a real chance to be as good as Giannis, if he develops his jump shot and handle a bit more. Even still, would I do it straight up? Probably, if it was that or no deal, but as with the Sengun version of this, that's not the shape of a real Giannis trade. I would not trade like, Amen, Green, and multiple first round picks for Giannis, which is what the trade would actually look like.
Shaq was pretty much done as a star at 33 years old, that's probably the closest comp to giannis. However, shaq was super lazy and not in shape at all, issues that giannis doesn't have. Pretty much any top 30 all time guy is still gonna be really good at 35.
It seems I've struck a nerve. Your response feels less like a disagreement and more like you’re handling a family emergency. A bit unhinged, if I'm being honest. But the point stands. The hypothetical assumes Milwaukee wouldn't accept Sengun, and by the logic being used, that would make the Bucks "stupid." That's not my spin. That's the implication baked into the argument. You seem deeply invested in Alperen Sengun beyond just the basketball side of things. And that's fine, but that's not where I'm coming from. I'm a Rockets fan. I want this team to win. Every night, every series. Passing on a two-time MVP in his prime because of Sengun? That's not a rational basketball decision. That's emotion calling the shots.
