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Damian Lillard (Milwaukee Bucks) Season Ending Torn Achilles (April 2025)

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Mr. Dominant, Apr 28, 2025.

  1. ThatBoyNick

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    God said it's Dames time
     
  2. Mango

    Mango Member

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    For those that don't know how bad the overall situation is for the Bucks.

    Green is favorable for the Bucks and Red isn't favorable.

    NBA Future Draft Pick Details

    2025

    2025 second round draft pick from Detroit
    Detroit's 2025 2nd round pick to Milwaukee (via L.A. Clippers to Portland to Detroit to Washington) [Brooklyn-Detroit-L.A. Clippers, 11/19/2020; L.A. Clippers-Portland, 2/4/2022; Detroit-Portland, 7/6/2022; Detroit-Washington, 1/14/2024; Milwaukee-New York-San Antonio-Washington, 2/6/2025]



    2025 first round draft pick to Brooklyn
    Milwaukee's 2025 1st round pick to Brooklyn (via New Orleans to Portland to Detroit to New York) [Denver-Milwaukee-New Orleans-Oklahoma City, 11/23/2020; New Orleans-Portland, 2/8/2022; Detroit-Portland, 7/6/2022; Detroit-New York, 7/6/2022; Brooklyn-New York, 7/6/2024]

    2025 second round draft pick to Cleveland
    Milwaukee's 2025 2nd round pick to Cleveland [Cleveland-Milwaukee, 11/18/2020]



    2026

    2026 second round draft pick from Utah
    Utah's 2026 2nd round pick to San Antonio protected for selections 56-60 or to Milwaukee protected for selections 31-55 (via Minnesota to San Antonio) [L.A. Lakers-Minnesota-Utah, 2/9/2023; Minnesota-San Antonio, 6/23/2023; Milwaukee-New York-San Antonio-Washington, 2/6/2025]



    2026 first round draft pick to New Orleans (swap, New Orleans incoming)
    New Orleans has the right to swap its 2026 1st round pick for Milwaukee's 2026 1st round pick [Denver-Milwaukee-New Orleans-Oklahoma City, 11/23/2020]

    2026 second round draft pick to Orlando or New York
    Orlando will receive the two most favorable of its 2026 2nd round pick, Detroit's 2026 2nd round pick and Milwaukee's 2026 2nd round pick and New York will receive the least favorable of the three (via Detroit to L.A. Clippers to Orlando; via Orlando to Phoenix to Brooklyn to New York) [Milwaukee-Orlando, 11/18/2020; Brooklyn-Detroit-L.A. Clippers, 11/19/2020; L.A. Clippers-Orlando, 7/29/2021; Orlando-Phoenix, 7/17/2023; Brooklyn-Memphis-Phoenix, 2/8/2024; Brooklyn-New York, 7/6/2024]



    2027

    No picks incoming.


    2027 first round draft pick to New Orleans or Atlanta
    New Orleans will receive the more favorable of its 2027 1st round pick and Milwaukee's 2027 1st round pick and Atlanta will receive the less favorable of the two protected for selections 1-4; if this pick falls within its protected range and is therefore not conveyable, then New Orleans' obligation to Atlanta will be extinguished and New Orleans will instead receive both picks (via New Orleans) [Denver-Milwaukee-New Orleans-Oklahoma City, 11/23/2020; Atlanta-New Orleans, 7/6/2024]

    2027 second round draft pick to Detroit
    Milwaukee's 2027 2nd round pick to Detroit (via Philadelphia) [Milwaukee-Philadelphia, 2/8/2024; Detroit-Philadelphia, 2/6/2025]



    2028

    No picks incoming.

    2028 first round draft pick to Portland or Washington (Portland, Washington, Brooklyn, Philadelphia or Phoenix incoming)
    Portland will receive the more favorable of its 2028 1st round pick, protected for selections 15-30 if Portland has not conveyed a 1st round pick to Chicago by 2027, and Milwaukee's 2028 1st round pick; Washington will receive the more favorable of (i) the more favorable of (a) Washington's 2028 1st round pick and (b) the least / less favorable of Brooklyn's 2028 1st round pick, Philadelphia's 2028 1st round pick, which would be protected for selections 1-8 if Philadelphia does not convey a 1st round pick to Brooklyn in 2027 and otherwise conveyable if Philadelphia has conveyed a 1st round pick to Oklahoma City by 2026, and Phoenix's 2028 1st round pick and (ii) the less favorable of the Milwaukee pick and the Portland pick if conveyable and Milwaukee will receive the less favorable of (i) and (ii); if the Portland pick is not conveyable, then Milwaukee's obligation to Portland will be extinguished and Washington will instead have the right to swap for the Milwaukee pick [see (ii) above] (via Portland's right to swap for Milwaukee; via Washington's right to swap Washington, Brooklyn, Philadelphia or Phoenix for Milwaukee or Portland) [Milwaukee-Phoenix-Portland, 9/27/2023; Milwaukee-New York-Washington, 2/6/2025]

    2028 second round draft pick to Oklahoma City
    Milwaukee's 2028 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City (via Brooklyn to Houston) [Brooklyn-Indiana-Milwaukee-Phoenix, 2/9/2023; Brooklyn-Houston, 7/6/2023; Houston-Oklahoma City, 10/17/2023]



    2029

    No picks incoming.


    2029 first round draft pick to Portland or Washington
    Portland will receive the most and least favorable of its 2029 1st round pick, Boston's 2029 1st round pick and Milwaukee's 2029 1st round pick and Washington will receive the second most favorable of the three (via Boston to Portland; via Milwaukee to Portland; via Portland to Washington) [Milwaukee-Phoenix-Portland, 9/27/2023; Boston-Portland, 10/1/2023; Portland-Washington, 7/6/2024]

    2029 second round draft pick to Detroit
    Milwaukee's 2029 2nd round pick to Detroit (via Brooklyn) [Brooklyn-Indiana-Milwaukee-Phoenix, 2/9/2023; Brooklyn-Detroit, 7/6/2023]



    2030

    No picks incoming.


    2030 first round draft pick to Portland (swap, Portland incoming)
    Portland has the right to swap its 2030 1st round pick for Milwaukee's 2030 1st round pick [Milwaukee-Phoenix-Portland, 9/27/2023]

    2030 second round draft pick to Orlando
    Milwaukee's 2030 2nd round pick to Orlando [Milwaukee-Orlando, 6/22/2023]



    2031

    No picks incoming.


    No picks outgoing.
     
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  3. Mango

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    .....................................2025-25.........2026-27........2027-28........2028-29
    Giannis.(30)............$54,126,380...$58,456,490...$62,786,601....UFA.......
    Lillard (34)...............$54,126,300....$58,456,490.......UFA...........................
    Kuzma (29).............$22,410,605....$20,356,152........UFA...........................
    Lopez. (36).....................UFA.......................................................................
    Portis (29)...............$13,445,754........UFA.................................................
    Connaughton (32)....$9,423,869.........UFA.................................................
    Kevin Porter (24)......$2,546,765.........UFA.................................................
    AJ Green (25)...........$2,301,587.........UFA.................................................
    Jericho Sims (26)..........UFA.......................................................................
    Prince (30).....................UFA.......................................................................
    Trent (26).......................UFA.......................................................................
    A Jackson (23)...........$2,221,677...$2,406.205.........UFA.........................
    C Livingston (21).......$2,221,677.....$2,406,205........................................
    Tyler Smith. (20)........$1,955,377...............................................................
    Ryan Rollins (22)..........RFA.......................................................................


    Of the older players.with Contracts for next season
    • Giannis
    • Lillard
    • Kuzma
    • Portis
    • Connaughton
    • Kevin Porter Jr
    • AJ Green

    There aren't many with notable positive value.
     
  4. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard
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    Doc Rivers being named a top 15 coach of all time is an insult to soo many more qualified coaches.
     
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  5. gfab-babyboi

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    6-8 months once you get out the cast/boot which is 2/3 months in itself

    I’ve had 3 Achilles surgeries in 3 years lol it sucks majorly
     
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  6. A_3PO

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    I thought NBA rules prevented teams from not having 1st round picks in consecutive years. (The Stepien Rule)
     
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  7. pacertom

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    Yes, but you can trade a first for another first (pick swap)

    2024-had a first
    2026-have a potentially lower first via pick swap
    2028-have a potentially lower first via pick swap
    2030-have a potentially lower first via pick swap
     
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  8. pacertom

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    Pacers starting SF Nesmith may be out for game 5, hurt his back falling after that key chase-down block
    Pacers 6th man Mathurin may also be out again
     
  9. Mango

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    Based on the input from A_3PO and pacertom, I modified the Color Coding to show which obligations are a Loss of the Pick and which obligations are an Option to Swap for the other team. Hoping that I did it correctly.

    Black is No Impact
    Green is favorable for the Bucks
    Red is the Loss of the Pick and unfavorable for the Bucks.
    Blue is an Option to Swap which will be unfavorable for the Bucks if the other team choses to exercise it.


    NBA Future Draft Pick Details

    2025

    2025 second round draft pick from Detroit
    Detroit's 2025 2nd round pick to Milwaukee (via L.A. Clippers to Portland to Detroit to Washington) [Brooklyn-Detroit-L.A. Clippers, 11/19/2020; L.A. Clippers-Portland, 2/4/2022; Detroit-Portland, 7/6/2022; Detroit-Washington, 1/14/2024; Milwaukee-New York-San Antonio-Washington, 2/6/2025]



    2025 first round draft pick to Brooklyn
    Milwaukee's 2025 1st round pick to Brooklyn (via New Orleans to Portland to Detroit to New York) [Denver-Milwaukee-New Orleans-Oklahoma City, 11/23/2020; New Orleans-Portland, 2/8/2022; Detroit-Portland, 7/6/2022; Detroit-New York, 7/6/2022; Brooklyn-New York, 7/6/2024]

    2025 second round draft pick to Cleveland
    Milwaukee's 2025 2nd round pick to Cleveland [Cleveland-Milwaukee, 11/18/2020]



    2026

    2026 second round draft pick from Utah
    Utah's 2026 2nd round pick to San Antonio protected for selections 56-60 or to Milwaukee protected for selections 31-55 (via Minnesota to San Antonio) [L.A. Lakers-Minnesota-Utah, 2/9/2023; Minnesota-San Antonio, 6/23/2023; Milwaukee-New York-San Antonio-Washington, 2/6/2025]



    2026 first round draft pick to New Orleans (swap, New Orleans incoming)
    New Orleans has the right to swap its 2026 1st round pick for Milwaukee's 2026 1st round pick [Denver-Milwaukee-New Orleans-Oklahoma City, 11/23/2020]


    2026 second round draft pick to Orlando or New York
    Orlando will receive the two most favorable of its 2026 2nd round pick, Detroit's 2026 2nd round pick and Milwaukee's 2026 2nd round pick and New York will receive the least favorable of the three (via Detroit to L.A. Clippers to Orlando; via Orlando to Phoenix to Brooklyn to New York) [Milwaukee-Orlando, 11/18/2020; Brooklyn-Detroit-L.A. Clippers, 11/19/2020; L.A. Clippers-Orlando, 7/29/2021; Orlando-Phoenix, 7/17/2023; Brooklyn-Memphis-Phoenix, 2/8/2024; Brooklyn-New York, 7/6/2024]



    2027

    No picks incoming.


    2027 first round draft pick to New Orleans or Atlanta
    New Orleans will receive the more favorable of its 2027 1st round pick and Milwaukee's 2027 1st round pick and Atlanta will receive the less favorable of the two protected for selections 1-4; if this pick falls within its protected range and is therefore not conveyable, then New Orleans' obligation to Atlanta will be extinguished and New Orleans will instead receive both picks (via New Orleans) [Denver-Milwaukee-New Orleans-Oklahoma City, 11/23/2020; Atlanta-New Orleans, 7/6/2024]

    2027 second round draft pick to Detroit
    Milwaukee's 2027 2nd round pick to Detroit (via Philadelphia) [Milwaukee-Philadelphia, 2/8/2024; Detroit-Philadelphia, 2/6/2025]



    2028

    No picks incoming.


    2028 first round draft pick to Portland or Washington (Portland, Washington, Brooklyn, Philadelphia or Phoenix incoming)
    Portland will receive the more favorable of its 2028 1st round pick, protected for selections 15-30 if Portland has not conveyed a 1st round pick to Chicago by 2027, and Milwaukee's 2028 1st round pick; Washington will receive the more favorable of (i) the more favorable of (a) Washington's 2028 1st round pick and (b) the least / less favorable of Brooklyn's 2028 1st round pick, Philadelphia's 2028 1st round pick, which would be protected for selections 1-8 if Philadelphia does not convey a 1st round pick to Brooklyn in 2027 and otherwise conveyable if Philadelphia has conveyed a 1st round pick to Oklahoma City by 2026, and Phoenix's 2028 1st round pick and (ii) the less favorable of the Milwaukee pick and the Portland pick if conveyable and Milwaukee will receive the less favorable of (i) and (ii); if the Portland pick is not conveyable, then Milwaukee's obligation to Portland will be extinguished and Washington will instead have the right to swap for the Milwaukee pick [see (ii) above] (via Portland's right to swap for Milwaukee; via Washington's right to swap Washington, Brooklyn, Philadelphia or Phoenix for Milwaukee or Portland) [Milwaukee-Phoenix-Portland, 9/27/2023; Milwaukee-New York-Washington, 2/6/2025]


    2028 second round draft pick to Oklahoma City
    Milwaukee's 2028 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City (via Brooklyn to Houston) [Brooklyn-Indiana-Milwaukee-Phoenix, 2/9/2023; Brooklyn-Houston, 7/6/2023; Houston-Oklahoma City, 10/17/2023]



    2029

    No picks incoming.


    2029 first round draft pick to Portland or Washington
    Portland will receive the most and least favorable of its 2029 1st round pick, Boston's 2029 1st round pick and Milwaukee's 2029 1st round pick and Washington will receive the second most favorable of the three (via Boston to Portland; via Milwaukee to Portland; via Portland to Washington) [Milwaukee-Phoenix-Portland, 9/27/2023; Boston-Portland, 10/1/2023; Portland-Washington, 7/6/2024]

    2029 second round draft pick to Detroit
    Milwaukee's 2029 2nd round pick to Detroit (via Brooklyn) [Brooklyn-Indiana-Milwaukee-Phoenix, 2/9/2023; Brooklyn-Detroit, 7/6/2023]



    2030

    No picks incoming.


    2030 first round draft pick to Portland (swap, Portland incoming)
    Portland has the right to swap its 2030 1st round pick for Milwaukee's 2030 1st round pick [Milwaukee-Phoenix-Portland, 9/27/2023]


    2030 second round draft pick to Orlando
    Milwaukee's 2030 2nd round pick to Orlando [Milwaukee-Orlando, 6/22/2023]



    2031

    No picks incoming.


    No picks outgoing.
     
    #29 Mango, Apr 29, 2025
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  10. pacertom

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    The Bucks future can't look good to Giannis or to anyone with half a brain. It's not like vet free agents are eager to go there for a discount, either.
     
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  11. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Looks like KPJ might get paid again.

    DD
     
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  12. Mango

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    The earlier post didn't mention Player Options and this is an effort to remedy that..


    _____________________2025-25________2026-27________2027-28_______2028-29
    Giannis.(30)_______$54,126,380____$58,456,490____$62,786,601_____UFA.__
    Lillard (34)_________$54,126,300____$58,456,490________UFA_______________
    Kuzma (29)________$22,410,605____$20,356,152_________UFA.______________
    Lopez. (36)____________UFA.________________________________________________
    Portis (29)_________$13,445,754_________UFA.______________________________
    __________________Player Option___________________________________________
    Connaughton (32)___$9,423,869________UFA_______________________________
    __________________Player Option___________________________________________
    Kevin Porter (24)_____$2,546,765________UFA.______________________________
    __________________Player Option___________________________________________
    AJ Green (25)________$2,301,587________UFA._____________________________
    __________________Guaranteed 7/8/25_____________________________________
    Jericho Sims (26)_______UFA________________________________________________
    Prince (30)_____________UFA_______________________________________________
    Trent (26)______________UFA______________________________________________
    A Jackson (23)_______$2,221,677_______$2,406.205_______UFA______________
    __________________Guaranteed 7/7/25_____________________________________
    C Livingston (21)______$2,221,677______$2,406,205________________________
    __________________Guaranteed 7/15/25_____________________________________
    Tyler Smith. (20)______$1,955,377_________________________________________
    Ryan Rollins (22)________RFA_____________________________________________



    The Free Agent Market for Connaughton could be weak, so he probably decides to stick around for his $9.4 Million.

    With Lillard out for much if not all of the 2025-26 Season, there is an opportunity for Kevin Porter Jr.. So perhaps - probably he decides to Opt out and sign a new deal with the Bucks or explore what is possible elsewhere. Other than maybe Orlando, his only offer to be a Starter might be with the Bucks.

    No idea if Portis will stick around or use Free Agency to catch on with a Contender.
     
  13. pacertom

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    I think that you can delete the bookmark now!
     
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    I'm going to save it and use out of context in 5-10 years to make a point per Clutchfans tradition.
     
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  15. Rocket River

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    If the bucks are desparate then take everything
    but
    honestly .. i don't want Giannis

    Rocket River
     
  16. amaru

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    Bucks in 11
     
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