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Israel Goes To War with Hamas 2023

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, Oct 6, 2023.

  1. lionaire

    lionaire Member

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    zionist sympathizers love bringing up the oslo accords like there was a written contract sent over to the PLO and they simply refused to sign it. All of the negotiations took place verbally without any written documentation. Regardless, Arafat agreed to the offer in principle but in typical israeli fashion they continued to add new stipulations and caveats to the deal just like we're seeing them do with every iteration of peace deals since oct 7th.
     
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  2. fchowd0311

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    Ask yourself if a single person who isn't a maga choice agreed with you that people should stop protesting as pro-Palestinian activists for the reasons you provided?

    Who in their right mind would you agree with you on this?

    It's such an absurd argument I think you are trolling. Who's alt account are you?

    Are you DD's alt account?
     
  3. lionaire

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    this is the same **** white people were saying about black people as an excuse to maintain a segregated america. you're making your ancestors very proud.
     
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  4. fchowd0311

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    Get this. He says he is a Muslim American. He isn't. He's an alt account of someone. This ain't good faith arguments. No sane person would say student activists are responsible for the plight of Gazans. That's unhinged. Not a single non maga person would agree to that framing here. This is what makes it such an obvious bad faith claim.

    Dude has some weird tendencies like an aggressive cheerleading of Joe Biden like how MAGA defends Trump. It screams bad faith parody account.
     
  5. astros123

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    Arafat did not agree to the deal. Arafat said BEFORE the negotiations that he would not accept any deal. Why do you lie? Arafat knew if he accept a deal he'd be hung by the Palestinians so he chickened out

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/may/23/israel3
     
  6. lionaire

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    shares an article written by well known revisionist benny morris lololololol
     
  7. astros123

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    **** off. I attend Friday prayers every week and I'm more of a practicing Muslim than anyone you know. I grew up going to Islamic school and know more about Islam than you. I'm just not a brainwashed leftie who supports Hamas
     
  8. lionaire

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    He's just parroting some weird hasbara talking point where they're trying to create divide amongst those opposing occupiers's action by painting it as a left vs right issue and not a humanitarian issue. unfortunately young republicans are also not fond of the actions of the genocidal state.


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  9. astros123

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    The overwhelming majority of the Palestinians were strongly against the oslo accords. They wanted a full right to return clause in the accords which the israslis rejected.

    This is why you western activists are the worst thing to ever happen to Palestinians. Gas lighting the Palestinians as if America is suddenly going to be pro Palestinian and somehow liberate gaza. You people are insane
     
  10. lionaire

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    Ah yes it's the western activists that are the worst thing to ever happen to the Palestinians. Not those carrying out a mass baby-killing campaign and not those supplying the tools needed to carry out the baby-killing campaign, but the activists.

    Look I don't know what type of agenda you have that led you to this conclusion but you are off the rocker my friend.
     
  11. astros123

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    My agenda is liberating the Palestinian people from a terrorist organization who uses them to enrich themselves. Before the IDF invaded Gaza by land there was a permanent ceasefire plan laid on the table which hamas rejected. We could've saved 40k+ dead civilians if Hamas had agreed to go into exile

    https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...eturn-permanent-ceasefire-egyptian-2023-12-25

    You activists spent the entire election campaign telling people not to vote for Harris in the name of gaza. You morons have accomplished nothing for Palestinians
     
  12. lionaire

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    Did you even read the article? There was no 'permanent ceasefire plan laid on the table'. The article mentions "The Hamas leadership is aiming with all its might for a complete, not temporary, end to the aggression and massacres of our people." If Egypt had offered a deal with a permanent ceasefire in place and Hamas' key demand was a permanent ceasefire then why would Hamas reject it? Because that offer was never actually on the table. It's because that 'offer' was a "'vision' rather than a concrete plan" according to the article.

    You have to be naive to believe its the side of the Palestinians that is getting in the way of a deal at this point. They have agreed to ceasefire/peace deals numerous times since 10/7. Here's former minister of defense of the terrorist state confirming it. Pay close attention to his words


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    Here's the Times of Israel confirming it was the genocidal govt of israel who turned down a deal before they decided to invade Gaza.
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    Also, please tell me which party decided to break the ceasefire deal that was negotiated by the Trump admin and decided to continue their ruthless baby killing campaign? If your agenda truly was liberating the Palestinian people then you would support the resistance and not cape for the israeli/us governments who are the real obstacles in the way of peace.
     
  13. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    There was never going to be a ceasefire that didn't involve massive retaliation for October 7th. Only a moron would think Hamas could go into Israel and kill 1,000 people and kidnap hundreds more and that Israel would agree not to respond. Yours is not a serious position.
     
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    Bibi is cooked once the bullets stop firing.

    We better not get into a conflict with Iran before Bibi leaves office
     
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  15. lionaire

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    There's no evidence that Hamas killed 1,000 people.

    What we do know for a fact:
    1) The IOF carried out the hannibal directive and open fired apache's and tanks in areas where civilians were present.

    2) They cleaned up the scene and buried evidence while turning down every call for an independent/third-party investigation into the event.
     
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    "aNdOR iS a LibErTarIaIn alLeGoRy"
     
  17. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    LOL, okay Hamas apologist.
     
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  18. lionaire

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    You have no argument therefore ad hominem
     
  19. astros123

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    Youre claiming the IDF killed its own people using a helicopter lol when this conspiracy has been debunked. Hamas is on record claiming they take responsibility for the killings and have said they'd do it again

    The absolute worst people for Palestinians are braindead lefties and activists who live in the comfort of America while spewing braindead conspiracies

     
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  20. lionaire

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    Sorry you're right. It wasn't just a helicopter. It was missile strikes, tanks, RPG's as well as the helicopters according to many israeli news outlets.

    https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/b111niukzt

    https://www.haaretz.co.il/news/poli....premium/0000018b-499a-dc3c-a5df-ddbaab290000


    https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-843558
     

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