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Trump 2028?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Ubiquitin, Apr 25, 2025.

  1. Ubiquitin

    Ubiquitin Member
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    The Average American TM has the reading level of a 7th grader. Many are functionally illiterate. So they elect stupid as **** representatives because they want someone who is like them to represent them. They conflate wealth and religiousness with morality and intelligence. They're genuinely too stupid to be disappointed by MAGA because they don't even understand what tariffs are or what a Houthi is.

    The educated civil servant class had a good run, but the music stopped in 2012 and we entered the reality TV era of politics that became the Social Media Era.
     
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    "The story of Babel is the best metaphor I have found for what happened to America in the 2010s, and for the fractured country we now inhabit. Something went terribly wrong, very suddenly. We are disoriented, unable to speak the same language or recognize the same truth. We are cut off from one another and from the past.

    It’s been clear for quite a while now that red America and blue America are becoming like two different countries claiming the same territory, with two different versions of the Constitution, economics, and American history. But Babel is not a story about tribalism; it’s a story about the fragmentation of everything. It’s about the shattering of all that had seemed solid, the scattering of people who had been a community. It’s a metaphor for what is happening not only between red and blue, but within the left and within the right, as well as within universities, companies, professional associations, museums, and even families."
     
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  3. Buck Turgidson

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    This so Christian of you. I love it.
     
  4. DonnyMost

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    And starting some 9 years ago, some of us warned: He and they are going to do X.

    Republicans (and many others) then and throughout: No he's not. He's just trolling liberals to get a reaction.

    Most Republicans now: I never actually opposed him doing X. In fact, I support it.
     
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    Most disdain I had in a long time.
     
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    yea yea yea
    I been told he couldn't do alot of ****
    it was against the law etc
    and
    they still doing it

    Rocket River
     
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    I'm seeing more of that chatter and it'd get super interesting if Trump really did put his name on the ballot and panicky Dems wrote in Barack or forced/voluntold Michelle with a very big 2-for-1.

    Then again even if Obama won, Trump would do what he did right up to J6.

    So yeah, hope this is all talk and the year before 2028 looks sane enough not to see Donny on the ballot again.
     
  10. DonnyMost

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    Trump vs Obama 2028: **** it why not

    This is a fitting end to the American experiment
     
  11. Space Ghost

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    Its all dumb rhetoric and moral outrage. Lets take a moment to map out a simple path to a Trump 3rd term if he was serious. (or we could shortcut the path and acknowledge Trump says dumb **** to distract the liberals from failures and just move on from this stupid conversation)

    Trump will be 82. He is already showing signs of slowing down and will face the same issue Biden faced. Trump won his 2nd term the same way Biden won - Terrible choices. All the Democrats have to do is run a competent centrist free of idiocy who is focused on main street America and just ignore DJT. This candidate beats Trump 10/10 times. If Democrats run another candidate like mccain/palin Harris/Walz, then they do risk a REAL constitutional crisis. What does this look like and in what scenario?

    First, this will require Trump to have a smashing great presidency. Very very low chance.
    The states would first have violate the constitution in extremely high numbers and put Trump on the ballot. (<1% chance). But lets imagine Trump had an awesome presidency AND Democrats decided to run r****d harris or AOC or another completely r****ded candidate. (moderately possibility at current trajectory - <50%)
    If Trump loses the popular vote AND the EC, nothing to see here.
    If Trump loses the popular vote AND wins the EC, the EC would have to violate the constitution (for those who failed kindergarten government, the EC elects the president, not the people) and actually vote for Trump. At this point, we now have dual constitutional crisis. 1) Does the will of the people AND EC hold more power than the constitution 2) If no, then who is the victor? At this point, congress would step in and decide.
    If Trump wins the popular AND the EC, we have a real problem as Trump has the support of the people.
    If Trump wins the popular >66.7% and the EC >75%, then this would trigger a constitutional override and create a massive war against the super majority populist vs the establishment/institution.

    This is all theoretical and the odds of this happening is extremely remote. TDS prevents this from ever happening. As we can see, it takes multiple steps to violate the constitution for this ever to be a reality.

    However we know the Netflix crowd will step in and ramble how we can't let Trump or this rhetoric happen(censoring). Thus we are back to the beginning of the prophecy where those who can't think 30 minutes past their nose spend their time in full TDS rage instead of finding a decent likeable competent candidate.
     
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  12. Xerobull

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    Why the **** not? We’re already riding the lightning and not enough people are doing **** about it. Pain is the best motivator.

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    If they run Harris, AOC or Newscum they have absolutely no chance
     
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    I know the Obama thing i a joke. But the main path Steve Bannon likes to bring up is one that wouldn't allow Obama to run. "consecutive" term loophole.
     
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  15. Space Ghost

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    Steve Bannon is a wack job who represents a tiny portion of America. If Democrats continue focusing on fringe issues instead of finding likable mainstream candidates, they are going to lose. The Democrat party has been hijacked by highly emotional Adderall addicts who can't focus longer than 30 minutes on an issue w/out chasing some r****ded boogieman situation.
     
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    First: It's just words, dumb rhetoric that won't happen - he's playing 5D chess to distract the libs.

    Then when it actually happens: you were so obsessed with warning about his words instead of working on real problems. Besides, this is actually necessary now.

    As if undermining constitutional principles wasn't the real problem all along.
     
  17. dobro1229

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    All of these “well this is what would have to happen” takes are naive and perceive a reality that if someone is trying to become a dictator above the rule of law, that maneuvering the rule of law is how one gets to be a dictator.

    -regardless of his popularity Trump has the full control of the funding and RNC primary apparatus. He will force out anyone running as opposition on the right.
    -If scotus rules he can’t be on primary ballot (if lawsuits can make it up to scotus in time before elections happen) he can always run under someone else’s name like Don Jr. and still hold all the power ala what Putin did by being named to another position but still holding all the power.
    -Trump could always just do what most corrupt dictators do and use violence or threats of violence and just simply rig the election using his tech bro oligarchs to manufacture results if an election does happen.

    Basically unless the resistance to Trump is overwhelming and even if it still is the words on the constitution are just words. Trump will have actual things at his disposal that can keep him in power.

    Now does that mean I think he’ll be successful??… not necessarily but I do know HE WILL TRY. Like is there one person here who really thinks even at 82 that he’s just going to sail into the sunset and go live out his days in peace at Mar a Lago?? Even the dumbest of the dumb Trump supporters don’t even argue that anymore.

    I think the most likely scenario is that for 2028 Trump will start his official “campaign”, setup all his pac stuff to fund raise, and start booking rallies here relatively soon. Maybe even as early as this fall or next spring. He’ll see how the courts react assuming there are lawsuits that are successful at blocking the flow of pac money based on the constitutionality. Then you’ll see what he does in regards to whose name is put at the top. I think it’ll likely be Don Jr. that way it’s still Trump 2028 and not named Vance. Even though Don Jr. will be the name, everyone will know Trump is the headliner,

    And if Don Jr. gets elected he names his father in some new role like prime minister and he runs the show like a godfather mob boss, and most likely the Don Jr. campaign has things lined up to either rig the election, or deny the results and stay in power either way.

    Either way Trump is trying to become a dictator. In the history of mankind this thing has a track record. Rules and laws do not matter and bloodshed almost always comes with the territory.

    Buckle up.
     
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    That's Republican voters. The money that pays for the politicians stiffles conservative and non-partisan movements by using propaganda to push it on the "woke left". And the growing sect of gullible, entitled, low IQ Republicans doesn't know any better.

    Don't love sending all of our money to Israel? Woke left.

    Occupy Wallstreet? The right paid for LGBT groups to get involved then push it on the "woke left".

    Mangione? Better Healthcare? Gotta be woke left.

    Cop kills someone in the streets? That's not good is it? Nah nevermind jk, woke left. Antifa (lulz).

    People would like to retire at some point? Or not have wealth gaps match the 1930s? Woke left commies.

    Hey can our kids have a sidewalk? TSLA money says that's woke left!

    The emerging low IQ sect of Republicans is so stupid they forgot Trump was begging people to take the vax and Presided over the mandatory mask era.

    Judge tries to uphold a law? Woke left (even when the judge is Republican).
     
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    Exactly.

    This is a very important distinction and one many people don’t fully understand.

    I also think any idea that we all are bound by this idea of the sanctity of the US Constitution is simply false. Quite a few people have made it very clear that the Constitution means nothing.
     
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    Losing tariff war badly - literally changing language to discuss trade war with the rest of the world…

    No peace in Ukraine as Russia presses on and laughs at all the time Trump wasted courting Putin.

    Massive unhappy and pessimistic feeling in the country…. PERFECT time for a patented Trump distraction.
     
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