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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Nov 25, 2018.

  1. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    That's because a you're getting old not tables turning. That was a Vietnam issue.

    Nobody ran on that against Trump. The reason @deb4rockets is because Trump is accusing blacks in the military of being DEI hires. It's insulting. I know you know this and are accusing Democrats of being war mongerers but it still needs to be responded to
     
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  2. deb4rockets

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    Everytime I read El_Conquistador's posts I cringe at his Trump loyalist tainted view of reality. DEI hire my ass. He's just someone echoing the BS clowns like Trump and Hegsmith spurt out their lying mouths.

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    He portrays the clown in charge as some tough guy and savior of our country. He calls a Four-Star General weak, yet thinks a guy who held no military command in battle higher than a platoon leader, staff jobs, and Fox News host the qualified warrior. That's so absurd it's not even funny. The guy isn't qualified!! Period.

    Trump probably also hated the fact that General Lloyd Austin stood for Ukraine. You know how he bends over backwards to kiss the butt of Putin.

    General Austin's speech in January is on attached link below, but here's a portion of his speech.....

    Putin wants to avenge a fallen empire—and to rebuild it. The Kremlin's assault starts with Ukraine. But it will not end there. And the dangers are global. Putin wants a world where empire tramples sovereignty—a world where conquest trumps human rights—a world where tyranny bulldozes democracy.

    Every autocrat on Earth is watching to see whether Putin gets away with it. So this coalition must continue to stand foursquare with Ukraine—and to strengthen Ukraine's hand for the negotiations that will someday bring Putin's monstrous war to a close.

    Now, that road is challenging. But all the alternatives are far worse. No responsible leader would let Putin have his way. As I have said, peace is not self-executing. Order does not preserve itself. And security does not expand on its own. And so, we must stand up for our security. We must hold firm to the bedrock principle that aggression is a sin. And we must never lose our nerve.

    So let me again urge countries of conscience from around the world to help Ukraine succeed—and to ensure that Putin does not prevail....

    https://www.defense.gov/News/Speech...-iii-after-his-25th-and-final-meeting-of-the/
     
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  3. astros123

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    It drives me crazy that these dipshits call Austin a "Dei hire" simply bcz he's black. He's one of the most qualified Secretaries in our lifetime. These people @El_Conquistador are just racist assholes who think any colored person is unqualified by nature cuz theyre colored.

    Truly shitty human beings who should be ridiculed more often.
     
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  4. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    No, it's because Austin's results were horrible. He overwhelmingly proved he was not fit for the job. He proved he was NOT qualified, regardless of his past. He did a horrible job. How could he have been qualified?

    But nice try playing the race card to deflect blame. How can ANYONE say Austin should not have been fired after the botched Afghanistan withdrawal? That single event massively disrupted America's global influence. He also went AWOL not once but twice. And forced troops fresh off the battlefield to sit for DEI training workshops. What a complete failure of a leader he was. Failure is an even better title than DEI hire.
     
  5. astros123

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    The Afghanistan withdrawal was done based off Trumps withdrawal plan. Trump freed 5000 Taliban hostages without getting ANYTHING in return. It was Trump who allowed Taliban to recapture 40% more territory in his final year.


    This disinformation that you spew in every post that USA global influence fell during Austin is more bullshit from you

    -USA got numerous airbases in Philippines
    -USA got nuclear powered submarines in the Korea waters for first time
    -USA got japan to 3x their military budget
    -USA got Australia to spent 300 billion on US powered submarines
    -USA got troops in Papa new Guinea for the first time

    What influence did we lose under Austin? Youre just a dipshit who spews lies in every post
     
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  6. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    The ability to use deterrence as a foreign policy
    . Peace through strength is another way to describe it. America's biggest advantage and WHY we spend the money we do on defense. People saw Biden/Austin's cut and run approach to withdrawing... leaving a power vacuum filled by the TALIBAN, and leaving a billion dollars worth of equipment behind. The Taliban would later clown the United States with a military parade using our own equipment. A low point for the prestige and morale of our military. Sad that we had incompetent buffoons like Joseph Robinette Biden and Lloyd Austin running the show.

    The fact that you have to ask that question proves you know virtually nothing about foreign relations. What an amateur! WOW. But I think it's safe to say we already knew this about you.


    GOOD DAY
     
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  7. astros123

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    Shut the **** up seriously. Europeans are literally canceling US defense contracts and onshoring their own military supply chains. Australia is talking about canceling a 300 billion dollar defense contract they have with America. Korea/Japan/China are talking to each other for the first time in decades bcz of Trumps wreckless trade war. The state department is closing embassies in Africa which will lead to the Chinnese rapidly gaining a ground in the continent.

    Im so tired of you braindead cultists spewing the same garbage in every thread that you read. Nobody has done more damage to US reputation than Trump. The entire world ****ing hates us and you dipshits cosplay as hes some popular hero

     
  8. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Trump is in the middle of rebalancing global trade in favor of America and you cite his approval ratings in countries that are having to give up the fat, bloated deals (trade + military funding) that they had under the Biden regime of weakness. OF COURSE they are upset -- Trump is putting a stop to their gravy train! LOL

    AMERICA FIRST means that the countries that had been robbing us blind will now have to do business differently. Anyone with common sense can predict the other countries' reactions. You must be very naive to not expect this response.


    GOOD DAY
     
  9. astros123

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    China's economy was on the verge of collapsing last year. They had DEFLATION and their economy was tanking. Russia's economy was on the verge of collapse with hyperinflation on the horizon. You morons can lie about Austin all day but our adversaries were on the verge of collapsing. This idea that somehow China was growing under Biden is bs and you think people are dumb.

    Now President XI is touring SE countries telling its leaders how unpredictable USA is and how they should all team together. You braindead cultists did China the biggest favor in the world by attempting to destroy all their economies overnight including our allies. You are taking foreign economies hostage which is something you dont do in Asia. Asians dont do thinks in a hurry and thats their culture.

    Its just funny how you morons want to pretend the drunk foxnews host whos turning all of our allies against us is somehow bringing integrity back to the military.
     
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    We have a draft dodger who is afraid of female reporters in charge. No country sees us as a threat anymore. We are a laughing stock because of current leadership.
     
  11. deb4rockets

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    The Republicans who voted him in obviously disagree with your assessment. LOL, what is your military experience dude? Video games? Armchair warrior?
    You act like you are some expert rambling off Trump the draft dodger's talking points. Go drink some more cult Kool-Aid and pretend Hegsmith is qualified with no real leadership experience but a platoon leader. A qualified bigot, racist and drunk. LOL
     
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  12. deb4rockets

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    Trump's all about himself, and his money. The sooner you realize that guy's a fraud dictator wannabe the sooner you break free from your cult brainwashing viewpoint.
     
  13. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Their votes would have looked a lot different AFTER Austin's horrible performance. You can't defend his record, that's for sure.
     
  14. deb4rockets

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    You can't defend a drunk who was nothing but a platoon leader as a soldier as some military expert. The guy is so reckless he used social media for war plans.
     
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  15. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    There is never any turmoil at the Pentagon until now
     
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    Spaceghost making the statement that the party that has AOC currently leading is the party of war mongering while his guy is currently telling anyone who will listen that he plans on being a dictator and defying the rule of law… is just so clownish and laughable on its face.

    What authoritarian country out there have you ever seen that also operates like peace loving hippies??? If you vote for and support someone with dictator ambitions, you are very very likely to have blood on your hands as a supporter. Whether it be just brutal treatment of immigrants, or mass genocide, or whatever in-between…. There are no authoritarian regimes in history that haven’t at some point had to employ violence often brutally in order to stay in power.

    Spaceghost is not a serious person and as an activist supporter of authoritarianism will have blood on his hands eventually. The supporters like him around the globe that help these thugs get in power through lies, fear, and propaganda are ultimately responsible. Most democracies are voted out because of foot soldier activists happy to spread said propaganda to the uneducated and gullible.

    So be mindful of how you engage someone like this. There’s always hope for self reflection and change but until that happens I would recommend avoiding debate bait and avoid being gaslit.

    The obvious thing is still obvious. The US and the West have a vested interest in making it unwise for a tyrant out there in the world to invade another sovereign country. A guy who supports the tyrant who is doing the invading is the bad guy.

    Being a propaganda tool for a tyrant doing the invading and killing like Putin makes YOU a bad fcking dude.
     
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    Trump is disrespectful for showing up at a funeral in blue
     

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