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Jay Williams a future point

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by theteam, Oct 25, 2004.

  1. theteam

    theteam Member

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    Here look at this artical i found ... ive posted this idea before and no one even bothered to think about it all they could do was name other point gaurds Jay Williams could be a perfect fit!

    http://www.nba.com/blog/blog11.html

    Preseason Impressions
    I've been following the preseason, just like everyone else. Here are some quick impressions ...... It's great to see Chris Duhon (a fellow Blue Devil and Chicago Bull) doing well. I'm really happy for him. The Bulls will be competitive, but they are still very young and this is a league full of veterans. It's rare that rookies can come in and lead right away. That's why LeBron and 'Melo are so special.

    When you play with a veteran team it's so much different because positions are already established. For example, in Minnesota, you know KG is the go-to guy, you know you have him, Sprewell, Wally and Sam. You know those are your guys to get the ball to. With a young team, you have so many guys who are trying to get that big contract and be that big-time player that nobody really has their role firmly in place. Chris might be able to take over that role as their leader.

    Right now, I'm really enjoying watching Miami play. Of course, you've got Shaq there, but Dwyane Wade is really turning into a
    great basketball player. I know a lot of people already feel that way, but knowing the League and the position, I really see something
    special in his mentality. He has a killer mentality, he's been shooting the ball much better and we already know his all-around game is high quality.

    My only concern for the Heat might be their lack of depth. They have some quality guys who will be stepping up after Caron Butler and Lamar Odom were sent to L.A., but over a long NBA season every team has to deal with injuries. By the time the postseason comes around, I think they might need to have picked up someone to help them out. I know at least one young point guard who hopes to be ready to return to action by then.

    Right now, I'd still pick Detroit to take both the East (and ultimately, the whole thing). After last season's Finals, you know they know how to deal with Shaq. After everyone else is making these big trades and moves, Detroit might be under the radar, but they're still the best team in the East.

    As for possible individual surprises this season, look for Jamal Crawford in New York. I love J.C. I admit I really get frustrated
    when I watch him play with Steph, because I know it could have been me and him, but he's really been doing well. Isiah is giving him
    the freedom he needs to do the awesome things he is capable of.

    Houston might need to make a few moves to solidify the supporting cast for Yao and T-Mac, but coach Van Gundy certainly knows what he's doing. Hey, maybe oneday I'll be coached by him. He's a great guy.

    In the West, I like Minnesota and Sacramento. I'm a big Chris Webber fan and, after rehabbing my leg with him, I got to see his drive and determination to overcome an injury up close. He can come back and be the same player he had been.

    That reminds me, I've always been a Yankees fan my entire life, and to see the Red Sox win the ALCS after being down 0-3, I kind of found myself rooting for them a bit, because right now, that's my life. I'm 0-3; everybody's counting me out, and they showed the type of comeback that no one anywhere had ever expected was possible.

    There's also San Antonio and Phoenix. Steve Nash is one of my all-time favorite point guards. The Lakers are Kobe's team now and it will be a challenge that they're not used to. He always rises to challenges. If he brings his all-around game and gets his teammates
    in on the action as much as needed, they can do well and surprise some people.

    :eek:
     
  2. m_cable

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    If Ward and Lue can't get it done during the regular season. Then there's no reason why we couldn't bring JW in for a workout. But I wouldn't get my hopes up. There's a reason this kid isn't in somebody's camp right now.
     
  3. KeepKenny

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    It may sound harsh, but I have little sympathy for people who screw up their lives by riding motorcycles. Especially professional athletes. They've got it all, and then just flush it down the toilet.
     
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    I don't remember the circumstances of his accident, but suddenly people can screw up their lives by riding motorcycles? Was he racing or something?
     
  5. KeepKenny

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    Yes. If you're riding a motorcycle, even the most minor accident can kill or horribly maim you, unless you are incredibly lucky. There's no buffer of protection. You get hit, you fly. That's why they call them donorcycles in the ER (if the organs are in good enough shape to even be used). If I remember the circumstances, he was going too fast, and couldn't turn quick enough, and ran into a pole. That's why there are clauses in all nba contracts that say you can't ride them. If he was driving a motorcycle, he probably knew the risks, which means that he was willing to accept the consequences.
     
  6. mogrod

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    Yea, and I think I remember hearing somewhere that the Bulls management approached him about his motorcycling and he denied doing it. A week or two later and we was in his accident.
     
  7. gucci888

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    The problem was that Jay Williams had a clause in his contract that banned him from riding motorcycles.

    But if he can make a comeback next season, I don't see a reason why we shouldn't bring him in a for a workout.
     
  8. MONON

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    Yup. I bought my 1st bike in 73. People say I've been screwed up ever since! :D
     
  9. Kam

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    he was on the tv show, beg, borrow, deal, or as it steal. I dont know, some eoe crap. He said he wasnt suppose to be riding a motorcycle and stuff, but he did anyway.
     
  10. xiki

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    JWms is promoting himself as a JVG'er? Wouldn't it be ironic if it eventuated, the #s 1 & 2 picks of the Yao draft together bat last,
     
  11. lalala902102001

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    I think that everyone deserves a second chance, especially someone like Jay Williams who made a mistake at a very young age that drastically changed the course of his life.

    With this said, I don't think that he has much of a chance of coming back to the NBA. His game relied entirely on his great athletic abilities (the kid was darn quick wasn't he). Those gifts are gone now. Jay should seriously start to think about another career.
     
  12. themocitydon

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    remember what happened to bobby hurly after his car accident?? he was never the same player ever again. and the same thing will happen to jay williams.. and a motorcylcle accident is much worse than a car accident depending on the situation.
     
  13. Rocket River

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    heaven forbid they try to have some normalcy in there lives

    :rolleyes:

    I had a co worker . . .. sky driver
    he had a horrible accident. . . nearly killed him
    but he survived. . . .had his job when he got back
    I was Kewl with it . . and it made me proud to be
    a part of that company


    but obviously . . .you would have fired him on the spot
    and cut his benefits

    Thank you Mr Scrooge

    Rocket River
    :mad:
    Something to be said for the milk of human kindness, dignity
    and sympathy
     
  14. Rocket Fan

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    rocket river... your co worker probably didn't have it specifically stated that he couldn't sky dive...

    jay williams was not allowed to ride a motorcycle and he did anyways.. he shouldn't be paid a dime as far as I'm concerned.. why should the bulls ever pay someone who wasn't even on the court for them because he was doing things he wasn't allowed to do
     
  15. Rocket Fan

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    even if they didnt pay him now but let him come back.. he wouldn't be the same and should not have the same pay waiting for him
     
  16. glad_ken

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    I put Jay Williams in the same category as Mateen Cleaves, awsome college point guards but not very good on the NBA level. I would rather have TJ Ford.
     
  17. PhiSlammaJamma

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    I agree. It doesn't hurt to take a look. And to possibly finance a return if he looks questionable or probable.
     
  18. Nero

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    If he wanted to rid e amotorcycle so badly, he could have gone to Jillian's and ridden one of their videogame motorcycles..

    Sheesh, here a person has millions of dollars on the table just waiting for him, and he throws it away due to sheer stupidity.

    Glad we didn't listen to many of the 'experts' and draft this genius instead of Yao..
     
  19. JuanValdez

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    I don't think we're talking about sympathy. A team would sign Jay Williams -- or any player -- to a contract because they feel sorry for him. They'd sign him because he can help them win. I don't think it smart to blacklist a talented player because he injured himself doing something stupid. You at least have the guarantee he won't be riding motorcycles again. So, if he has the talent, if his body has sufficiently mended, why wouldn't you take a look? No sympathy here at all.
     
  20. KeepKenny

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    I agree. If he's good enough to make a team, more power to him.
     

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