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2025 NFL Draft Thread

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  1. Marshall Bryant

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    I love that old Irish word. SHENANIGANS.
     
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    https://www.si.com/nfl/takeaways-shedeur-sanders-could-fall-2025-nfl-draft

    I wouldn’t be surprised if more than a quarter of the first round is devoted to offensive linemen. At tackle, I’d view LSU’s Will Campbell, Missouri’s Armand Membou and Texas’s Kelvin Banks Jr. as first-round locks. At guard, I see Alabama’s Tyler Booker and North Dakota State’s Grey Zabel that way. After that, I think Oregon OT Josh Conerly, Ohio State OT Josh Simmons, Ohio State G Donovan Jackson and Arizona G Jonah Savaiinaea have a great shot to land in the first round. And Georgia C Jared Wilson has an outside chance to make it 10 offensive linemen in the first 32 picks.

    Some of these guys wouldn’t be first-rounders in other years. Their chance to fall into that category in 2025 comes for a few different reasons.

    First, there’s the class’s overall quality across all positions, down at the top. Second, there’s the Philadelphia Eagles copycat thing at play. Third, there’s not great depth after you get past the five tackles and five interior offensive linemen.

    So if a team wants a lineman who can help quickly, it’d be risky for them to wait until Friday.

    Which means teams will probably choose not to.


    • Michigan CB Will Johnson has a knee issue that’s been flagged. It shouldn’t affect him in the short term, but teams are concerned it could impact his longevity. Add to the questions on Johnson’s long speed, which were not allayed when he decided not to run a 40, and the Wolverine star could slide.

    • Georgia edge rusher Mykel Williams had just a so-so workout last week and told teams he wasn’t at his best because an ankle injury from the fall hampered him a little.

    • Alabama LB Jihaad Campbell had shoulder surgery after the combine, and teams are projecting him as a candidate to start the season on PUP. Campbell is a bit beat up in the same sort of way that some Crimson Tide players who went through Nick Saban’s program have been in the past.

    • Ohio State OT Josh Simmons tore his patellar tendon in October, and that’s a tough injury for a big man to return from. He went through the combine re-check in mid-April, and the impression teams have gotten is that it’ll be August before he’s fully cleared to play football.

    • East Carolina CB Shevon Revel tore his ACL in September. He’s highly regarded, and would’ve likely been a first-rounder had he stayed healthy. As it stands, he’s expected back around the start of training camp, which will be more of a problem for some teams than others.

    • We talk a lot about guys with character flags. How about the other side? Last week, we mentioned that Georgia’s three likely first-rounders (Jalon Walker, Mykel Williams, Malaki Starks) all being top-notch. Jeanty, Booker, Campbell, Zabel, and Ohio State’s Emeka Egbuka, TreVeyon Henderson and Donovan Jackson are also in that culture-driver category.

    • I’d be surprised if Banks makes it out of the top 11-or-so picks. He’s more of a prototype left tackle than Campbell or Membou and is solid character-wise. And while he had a couple rough outings against Georgia, there’s enough on tape to believe he’ll improve.

    • Interesting maybe to me alone—some teams prefer Michigan’s Colston Loveland over Penn State’s Tyler Warren at tight end.

    • Ole Miss DT Walter Nolen may go higher than you think. Some teams believe he projects better to the NFL than Graham. The character/entitlement question is what you have to get past. But if you have solid infrastructure, as well as locker room and defensive line room, the payoff could be big. So if the San Francisco 49ers are willing to take a swing …
     
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    Those stuck out to me the most; Banks falling to 25 won't happen
     
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    Rap thinks it is fact that 3 OTs go in the top 10 including banks; his own guess though not from sources
     
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    I'm really interested in what the Patriots do at Piick 4. If they can trade back, then that would be option 1. I see a lot of mock drafts where the Patriots are selecting Will Campbell to play Left Tackle. I can't see Campbell playing LT well enough to stay at that position. If he is a starting left tackle next year he will have the shortest wingspan of any left tackle and probably right tackle in the league. He will have to be moved to guard. Guards aren't selected in the top 5 picks of the NFL Draft unless you feel they will be Pro Bowl/ HOF type of player. Nobody is forecasting that type of career for Campbell. Nobody wants to pay a Guard Pick 4 NFL draft type of money. Membou is a talented Tackle but is widely considered a Right Tackle only type of player. I think if the Patriots pick at 4 it's going to be an Edge defender. Jalen Walker is a highly regarded Edge/Linebacker that I think would fit in great with Vrabels Defense and make a big impact next year. To me it seems kind of an insanity to pick a average Starting Guard at 4 when you can select one of the top edge defenders in the draft.
     
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    Hoping for Burden if Golden is gone
     
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    I do multiple mocks every day, primarily using PFN, which I believe is the most realistic simulator. Colston Loveland was available at 25 in every other mock draft simulation, but not anymore.

    Anyway, this is my "Let's win it all THIS year!" mock where I focus on upgrading the WR, TE, & RB rooms while adding only one quality OL.

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    I felt that way too until I listened to a draft talking-head that said that a lot of Burden's production came from screen passes because he's not a great route runner. If that's true then I would prefer Egbuka who is a phenomenon route runner. If CJ is counting on a precise route then Egbuka makes a lot of sense.

    My preference, however, is to grab Donovan Jackson at 25 and then get a good WR on Day 2. I think we need an elite, immediate impact, guard at 25 more than anything else.
     
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    After watching lowlights our garbage OL getting CJ smashed repeatedly, we gotta take THREE quality OL and then pray that at least TWO come through.

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    Want to fix the OL

    Trade 1-25 and a 2026 2nd to move up for banks

    Jackson falls to say 2-45 trade 2-58 and 3-89 for Jackson.

    Draft best WR you can get at 3-79 (Royals would be my guy)

    Draft Fidone TE Nebraska 5-166.

    Best RB you can find.


    OL Robinson Jackson Patterson Banks Howard or Fisher

    TE Stover/Fidone/Schultz

    WR's Nico/Kirk/Royals/Metchie/ 7th rd pick Sammy Brown Jr.

    RB's Mixon/Peirce/Dare/ Josh Williams LSU 7th rd pick

    Think this offense would look better?
     
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  17. OKC_Texan

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    Would this help?

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  18. OKC_Texan

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    I watched this matchup of Abdul Carter vs Aireontae Ersery twice. Carter gave Ersery fits but didn't get a sack. Overall, Ersery got the better of Carter. I'd love to get Donovan Jackson in the first and Aireontae Ersery in the second.

     
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    I have a feeling Josh Simmons is going to be the pick
     
  20. Fulgore

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    If he beats out Cam that will be alot of money sitting on the bench.
     

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