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Another day another mass shooting

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by AleksandarN, Nov 8, 2018.

  1. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    I did a few years worth a long time ago. I have no desire to do it again. I gave you the source material. You can choose to educate yourself or remain ignorant.
    Do as you like.
    That is a true statement, but the result of that statement is that the majority of school shootings are carried out by black perpetrators.
    Wow, wrong three ways. I was not flat out wrong, which you can tell by the way not a single person can disprove what I said, I am not MAGA, and nothing I said was racist. Bravo. It is tough to fit so many errors in such a brief statement.
     
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  2. Sajan

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    No. That is not the result of that statement.

    There's a lot of things you can pin on black perpetrators but school shootings ain't one of them. So just stop.
    Find me ONE credible source that shows that instead of a wikipedia article with dead links and claim you did research 3 years ago.

    Fun fact, monkeys and cows eat bananas for breakfast. more info here www.google.com
    You can choose to believe it, look it up or stay ignorant.
     
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    Feeling safe yet? No? Thoughts and Prayers!
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  4. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Here is all the ones from 2022, should be a roughly representative sample. There will be 3 parts, because it goes over the character limit.
    Part 1:
    01/04/22 Rockford, Illinois
    Two men sentenced to 20 years for 2022 attempted murder in Auburn High School parking lot | MyStateline | WTVO News, Weather and Sports
    Two shooters, both black: Nyreek Williams and Franquon Wright
    01/09/22 Murfreesboro, North Carolina
    An unknown individual discharged a gun in a Chowan University dorm room, no injuries were reported and the bullet was located later in a fridge.
    no suspect information
    01/11/22 Albuquerque, New Mexico
    A shooting occurred in the parking lot of Valley High School during a basketball game, no injuries were reported.
    no suspect information
    01/19/22 Sanford, Florida
    Teen sentenced for 2022 shooting of fellow student at Seminole High School – WFTV
    One shooter, black, Da’Raveius Smith
    01/19/22 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
    Teenager sentenced to at least 20 years in fatal shooting outside Oliver Citywide Academy - CBS Pittsburgh
    Two shooters, both black, Eugene Watson and his brother (first name not given)
    01/21/22 Derwood, Maryland
    18-year-old sentenced Thursday after Magruder High School bathroom shooting
    One shooter, black, Steven Alston Jr.
    01/29/22 Beloit, Wisconsin
    Suspect pleads guilty in 2022 homicide outside Beloit high school
    One shooter, black, Amaree Goodall
    02/01/22 Richfield, Minnesota
    Teen pleads guilty to murder in shooting outside Richfield school | MPR News https://www.kare11.com/article/news...field/89-42ad08bd-1b71-4fc5-8164-5ae6ee64f84f
    One shooter, hispanic, Fernando Valdez-Alvarez
    02/01/22 Bridgewater, Virginia
    Bridgewater College Shooter pleads guilty, receives two life sentences
    One shooter, white, Alexander Wyatt Campbell
    02/06/22 Morgantown, West Virginia
    WVU police say Phi Sigma Phi member fired gun in the air during dispute | News | thedaonline.com
    One shooter, white, Garrett Boehme
    02/08/22 Catonsville, Maryland
    Catonsville High School student pleads guilty to charges related to 2022 shooting in school’s parking lot – Baltimore Sun One shooter, unidentified; the getaway driver Sean Potter unknown race.
    02/09/22 Minneapolis, Minnesota
    Man who shot school bus driver on Minneapolis interstate sentenced to 7 years | MPR News
    one shooter, white, Kenneth Lilly
    03/04/22 Olathe, Kansas
    Former Olathe East student sentenced to 20 years in prison after 2022 school shooting
    one shooter, black, Jaylon Elmore
    03/07/22 Des Moines, Iowa
    Multiple shooting victims reported outside Des Moines East High School
    nine perpetrators (some may be drivers) 8 hispanic, 1 unknown, Manuel Buezo, Octavio Lopez, Romeo Perdomo, Henry Valladares Amaya, Gumaro Marquez-Jacobo, Baulio Hernandez-Salas, Daniel Hernandeza, Kevin Isidro Martinez
    03/31/22 Greenville, South Carolina
    Tanglewood Middle School Shooting suspect appears in court
    one shooter, black, Jordan Williams, Jr.
    04/02/22 Santa Rosa, California
    Santa Rosa Police arrest man on suspicion of 2022 shooting that killed 19-year-old - The Press Democrat
    one shooter, hispanic, Manuel Rivera
    04/05/22 Erie, Pennsylvania
    Erie High shooter gets 8½-17 years after pleading guilty in 2022 case
    one shooter, black, Jim’mare Crosby
    04/08/22 Bronx, New York City, New York
    Gunman who fatally shot teen girl near Bronx school sentenced to 15 years to life - ABC7 New York
    one shooter, racially ambiguous (mixed maybe?) Jeremiah Ryan
    04/14/22 Lake Ariel, Pennsylvania
    A 13-year-old was arrested and charged with institutional vandalism and possession of a weapon on school property after being seen firing a gun just above a door at the main enterprise of Western Wayne Middle School by surveillance footage.
    no racial suspect information
    04/22/22 Washington, D.C.
    4 people shot in DC, suspect took his own life as cops closed in
    one shooter, Asian?, Raymond Spencer
     
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    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Part 2:
    05/09/22 Suwanee, Georgia
    Woman opens fire at school bus in Gwinnett County neighborhood, police say | FOX 5 Atlanta
    one shooter, black, Celeste Michele Saunders
    05/17/22 Chicago, Illinois
    Gun in 8-year-old’s backpack goes off at Chicago school, mom charged
    no racial suspect information
    05/18/22 Murfreesboro, Tennessee Following a graduation ceremony for Riverdale High School on the campus of Middle Tennessee State University a fight began in which two people were shot. A graduate of Riverdale was killed, a student was wounded, and another teenager was arrested.
    no racial suspect information
    05/19/22
    2nd suspect arrested in Hammond High graduation shooting that injured 4
    two shooters, one black, Trent Thomas, one undisclosed juvenile
    05/19/22 Kentwood, Michigan
    2 plead guilty in shootout at East Kentwood High School | WOODTV.com
    two identified shooters (may have been as many as five), both black, Shaakir Abdulwahab and Jacqui Hill
    05/24/22 Uvalde, Texas
    third-deadliest school shooting in U.S. History
    one shooter, hispanic, Salvador Ramos
    05/31/22 New Orleans, Louisiana
    Morris Jeff High school shooting suspect arrested | WGNO.com
    one shooter, black, Brandon Rock
    06/01/22 Los Angeles, California
    Both Los Angeles School police and officers from the Los Angeles Police Department responded to the scene, and believe the incident might have been gang-related. According to police, a male student at Ulysses S. Grant High School was shot in the leg, in the area of Oxnard St. and Coldwater Canyon, in front of the school, and was transported to Cedars Sinai Hospital in stable condition.
    no racial suspect information
    06/08/22 Little Rock, Arkansas
    A school bus that was taking a student home from a summer program was hit by a bullet. No one was injured in the incident.
    no suspect information
    06/09/22 Byhalia, Mississippi
    A minor was arrested after firing a gun at Byhalia High School.
    no racial suspect information
    08/03/22 Oakland, California
    At Oakland Tech High School, three people were shot, including a 6-year-old girl.
    no racial suspect information
    08/19/22 Clarksville, Tennessee
    Indictment handed down in West Creek High School shooting - Main Street Media of Tennessee
    Three suspects, one black, David Techaun Sanders, two no ID given
    08/19/22 Groveport, Ohio
    Teen charged after shooting at Ohio High School football game
    Two suspects, one black, James Keys, one juvenile with no ID info given
    08/25/22 Bismarck, North Dakota
    Suspect pleads not guilty in August shooting on United Tribes campus
    two shooters, white, Devin and Damion Proffit
    08/29/22 Oakland, California
    At Madison Park Academy, police responded to a report about a shooting, a 13-year-old boy was shot and a 12-year-old boy fled after the shooting but was quickly arrested and charged with assault with a firearm and other weapons charges. Police say the victim was not the intended target.
    no racial suspect information
     
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    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Part 3:
    09/03/22 Dover, Delaware
    A non-student shot four people near basketball courts on the Delaware State University campus, including two students.
    no racial suspect information
    09/20/22 South Bend, Indiana
    A juvenile suspect was detained after a shot was fired on board a Jackson Middle School school bus.
    no racial suspect information
    09/24/22 Richfield, Minnesota
    Two people were shot following a fight near a Richfield High School football game. Two juveniles were arrested in connection with the shooting.
    no racial suspect information
    09/27/22 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
    Roxborough High School Shooting Update: 4 suspects appear in court; 5th suspect at large - 6abc Philadelphia
    6 suspects, 4 black two unknown race, Yaaseen Bivins, Saleem Miller, Troy Fletcher, Dayron Burney-Thorn and Zyhied Jones
    09/28/22 Oakland, California
    Oakland school mass shooting case remains unsolved, police release video | KRON4
    2 suspects, no racial suspect information (totally covered head to toe in the video)
    09/30/22 Newburgh, New York
    Three people were shot in the parking lot of Newburgh Free Academy following a football game.
    no suspect information
    09/30/22 Tulsa, Oklahoma
    Teen accused of shooting 4 people at McLain High School football game to be tried as adult | News | fox23.com
    one shooter, black, Niavien Lee Golden
    10/05/22 Tucson, Arizona
    Former UArizona student convicted of murder in 2022 shooting of professor
    one shooter, west Asian, Murad Dervish
    10/07/22 Toledo, Ohio
    3 indicted in Oct. 2022 homicide, Whitmer shooting | wtol.com
    two shooters, both black, Kejuan Lucas and Jaron Phillips
    10/08/22 Baltimore, Maryland
    A man was shot during an unsanctioned party on the Morgan State University campus.
    no suspect information
    10/24/22 St. Louis, Missouri
    2022 Central Visual and Performing Arts High School shooting - Wikipedia
    one shooter, black, Orlando Harris
    11/04/22 West Hartford, Connecticut
    [Updated] West Hartford Police Take Person of Interest in Shooting at USJ Into Custody - We-Ha | West Hartford News
    one shooter, black, Darnell Barnes
    11/08/22 Seattle, Washington
    A student of Ingraham High School was shot inside the school. Another student was arrested for the shooting.
    no racial suspect information
    11/12/22 Orlando, Florida
    Three people were shot in the parking lot of Jones High School during a football game. A 19-year-old was killed.
    no racial suspect information
    11/13/22 Charlottesville, Virginia
    University of Virginia mass shooting suspect Christopher Darnell Jones Jr. allegedly shot football player as he slept: Prosecutor - ABC30 Fresno
    one shooter, black, Christopher Darnell Jones, Jr.
    11/17/22 Clinton, Indiana
    Indiana Officer Shoots Student During High School Demonstration
    one shooter, white, Deputy Tim DisPennett
    11/19/22 Albuquerque, New Mexico
    A look back at the deadly shooting at UNM: Timeline of events
    one shooter, black, Brandon Travis (Mike Peake returned fire, but clearly self-defense)
    11/27/22 Tallahassee, Florida
    Man convicted in mass shooting at basketball courts sentenced to life in prison
    one shooter, black, Chedderick Thomas
    12/08/22 Fuquay-Varina, North Carolina
    6th grader fires shot in Fuquay-Varina classroom
    no racial suspect information
    12/16/22 Chicago, Illinois
    Teen sentenced to 46 years in murders of two students outside Chicago high school - CBS Chicago

    one shooter, hispanic, Christian Acevedo

    That is 27 black suspects, 6 white, 12 Hispanic, 2 Asian, and 31 unknown.
    So of all the school shootings in 2022 where the suspect's race is identified, black suspects make up 57% (a majority). Now we will see if my prediction was correct, that this will somehow be determined not to be good enough, it doesn't count, or some other complaint.
     
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    How the the f**k are 31 "unknown"?

    47 "others"?
     
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  8. Sajan

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    There are so many false positives on that list I gave up trying to look into them.
    Seems like you just counted anything that had the word school and shooting as a mass shootings at a school.

    some examples.
    these are not mass shooters.

    01/29/22 Beloit, Wisconsin
    Suspect pleads guilty in 2022 homicide outside Beloit high school
    One shooter, black, Amaree Goodall

    01/04/22 Rockford, Illinois
    Two men sentenced to 20 years for 2022 attempted murder in Auburn High School parking lot | MyStateline | WTVO News, Weather and Sports
    Two shooters, both black: Nyreek Williams and Franquon Wright
     
  9. glynch

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    It is always the guns, and the moronic Second Admentment, but let's waste millions if not billions of dollars and hours on the potentially educational news media breatlhessly analyzing social media posts, gaming histories. Let's spend billions on active shooter drills, rebuilding all schools with safe rooms, hire tens of thousands of scurity guards, spend billions on rehabilitation and medical expenses.
     
  10. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Generally with the "unknowns" it is because the only information released is something like "12 year old detained", or in one instance, "mother of 7 year old arrested."
    I just counted everything on the list. I never made a claim they were mass shooters. Also, my prediction was absolutely correct as well.
     
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    Spending billions on arming up schools is the NRA dream. More guns! Lower the age requirements! More guns shows! Screw background checks! Screw stricter laws! Give away more of those AK-47's in GOP raffles. Arm your kids for family Christmas photos! Cut funding for mental healthcare! It's just government waste.
     
  12. Sajan

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    What is this thread about?
    Mass.
    School.
    Shootings.

    Majority of mass school shootings are not by blacks.

    End of story.
     
  13. StupidMoniker

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    Actually, the thread is about mass shootings (not limited to school shootings). The post I responded to was about school shootings (not limited to mass shootings). My post was about school shootings. I even clarified multiple times that I wasn't talking only about mass shootings, but all school shootings. You even made a statement about there being mass indiscriminate school shootings vs. incidents targeting specific people, which I agreed was true and told you that based on that the majority of school shooters were black, which you denied. You cannot accept that I was right, even after I posted the evidence (which isn't conveniently available, btw, it takes a long time to look up 55 different instances and research if the shooter was identified and if so if demographic information is available about them).
     
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    I don't care if school shootings or mass shootings are primarily done by black, white or Asian people. If we are going to go down this route - they are almost ALL done by men, they are the reason we have so much violence in society. So if we are going to play the blame game, go down that road.

    What I am concerned about is how easy it is for children, teenagers and the mentally ill to get guns that can inflict a lot of fear and carnage.
     
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    I know many here are trying to depict their collective narratives that blacks, Hispanics, liberals and Maga's are the ones to blame for these shootings.
    I for one do not give two craps what ethnicity or political affiliation these people are.
    There are good and bad folks in all walks of life.
    I draw no happiness from finding out their ethnicity or political affiliation.
    But that's just me.
    I just wish there was a way to make them stop. Which is nothing but a dream that will not be fulfilled.
     
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    Why don't we look at what other countries with no mass shootings are doing and do what they do?

    [ducks for cover]
     
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    You would have to remove everyone's guns. And that aint gonna fly with the gun owners.
    It's a real catch 22.
    Even if all of the guns were taken there would still be those driven enough to get a gun somehow, because it would be impossible to get every gun that is out there on the streets.

    I'm not a gun person. Did some wild boar hunting around San Antonio back in my teens but other than shooting cans with a 22 in my parents pasture I have never had a use for them. My dad was an avid rock hunter and used to carry a shotgun with him in New Mexico in case we wandered upon a rattler while looking for agate and geodes
     
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    Some folks just feel a need to point blame when the shooters are black or brown skinned, trans, or illegals. It's usually the same folks over and over. That's what outrages them most, and not the stupid ass loose gun laws in our country.
     
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    But then how are you going to defend yourself during the upcoming civil war?
     
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    My issue is you keep mixing mass shootings and "majority of school shooters were black".

    Two distinct different things.

    If there's a mass shooting (school or not), most likely it's a white male.
    Now, if you your definition of mass shooting is anything near a school...then I don't know what to say.

    https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles...-us-mass-shootings#mass-shooting-demographics
     

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