Kilmar Abrego Garcia will not be returned to the US

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackstone's_ratio

The Wikipedia article points out how authoritarians love to invert Blackstone's ratio, which seems to be the MAGA position.

 

There's plenty of reporting on what's been happening there. Did the same thing as Duerte in the Philipines - though without the extrajudicial assassinations. He made the streets safe by arresting anybody who MIGHT be guity. Works great to clean up the street so long as you don't care about innocent people being arrested or killed. I'm sure if you don't know anybody like that it probably seems great as long as you don't dig too deep.

 

@HTM oh no, not this topic again…undocumented farmers and hotel workers?!?! Even Trump thinks you are an idiot.

 

It sounds great to everyone with a brain.

90% + approval rating from the people who actually live in the country and experienced what it was like before those measures were implemented.

Murder rate down from 4000 a year to 80.

How much innocent blood are you will to pay so a small minority gets their due process back?

 

He could be legally deported to another country. He can't be legally deported where he was deported to. He's been ordered for them to attempt to bring him back, and they are actively in contempt. Does Stephen Miller understand the law?

He does, he just gives zero ****s about the actual rule of law.

 

So you are happy to spread lies aka propaganda because you are too lazy to care.

Got it, just wanted to make sure you were making your character (or lack of rather) clear.

 

A white nationalist (openly racist) that wants to get rid of dark people and is Trump's right hand man. His name is Stephen Miller.

The fact that they are putting him up here shows their true colors. Or lack of. They basically are showing their true hate for all that is not white because it's ok to now.

 

Funny how these guys (and yes I mean you) need to just lie because the truth would make your side look bad. He's not a gang member nor illegal, yet you have to say that in order to convince yourself that you are right.

Truly you are brainwashed. Do you not have any pride at all? Do you feel bad that you are such a programmed bot for people with power? Like you are the tissue they not jack off in, but use to wipe up with afterwards

 

He's a citizen of El Salvador being detained by Salvadoran authorities.

What right does the United States have to demand El Salvador release him to us?

 

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety

- Some radical liberal weirdo

 

It's funny because this country and other democracies also suspend civil liberties when necessary.

Only a completely out of touch psycho would prefer the murder law capital of the world run by gangs > an authoritarian suspending some civil liberties.

 

Because in the history of Central America, things always end well when Presidents start taking on extralegal powers.

When was the last time in America we approved locking Americans up indefinately without evidence proving guilt and let that stand? I'm pretty sure it was Japanese Internment Camps in WWII, universally regarded as a moral stain on America (and that was a cakewalk next to an El Salvadorian prison), but I'd love your comments.

 

You're moving the goal posts with "indefinitely" - that's not what the quote you used said.

We do implement martial law during civil unrest and natural disasters. Lincoln did do it during the Civil War.

Those are instants of the suspension of civil liberties.

What about things ending well for the 4000 people a year murdered in El Salvador that is now 80?

What about them? What about their right to not be murdered? How much blood are you willing to allowed to be shed?

What about the right of the people to not be extorted, kidnapped, sexually assaulted?

What about those rights?

 

So when are the El Salvidorans getting their day in court?

Indefinately.

It's sad that you can act like.you love America but not understand it's history and traditions at all.

 

Funny how you don't respond to the post.

You know you cannot argue with the facts.

You have absolutely nothing.

 

So now the US has no right to demand or request anything of foreign countries? Read my sig, the answer is there courtesy of the disingenuous Space ghost.

Also, would you deport all the illegals who work in farming, hotels and restaurants? Trump says he wont.

 

Oh the sweet sweet irony

 

Are you talking school shootings? Those numbers seem a little low.

 

Says the person who keeps saying something something Lincoln something something.

 

Trump is not a serious person… a great lady once said.