Illegal aliens: Net positive or negative financial impact on the US?

I proudly have 50-60 illegals working for me. They are wonderful people and I intend to continue to support them.

-They pay taxes
-They don’t file tax returns
-This largely should pay for any public services that they do use. as an example, one of the girls I have right now is pregnant and I believe she’s on Medicaid/Medicare.

Taking a job from Javier to give it to Steve or Ja’Teavonarius only works in theory. Because both of those people suck And have very little work ethic.

My first job was on a farm at eight years old picking up rocks out of fields. After that, I graduated to castrating bulls. And then I came up through multiple service industries. So when I finally got to work inside, it was easy for me.

My oldest daughter is relatively lazy. She turned 15 the other day and I made her get a job right away But I don’t think that she’ll ever understand what some of these females have to do and go through to get to the United States. Nor do I want her to experience those horrors.

I am all about increasing security at the border and curbing the flow of illegal immigration. 1000%.

Moving people out of the country that have been paying taxes and have established lives is not the right course. This requires some sort of framework on timelines and amnesty. And to be honest, I don’t have those answers. This country has been built on hardworking generations of immigrants.

And for me personally, i pay my folks above average. It should be a crime to underpay.

 

there is no argument for them being a net negative when they do jobs most Americans want no parts of for extremely cheap…a ton of businesses and industries rely on them

 

Yet another stupid thread by OP to justify Bidens failed immigration policy.

Real practical solution that Democrats can't come up with - greatly increase work visas.

Yw

 

I am very interested in this tax strategy as this has always been a dream of mine. Please elaborate on how this can be achieved.

 

What is their average salary?

Do you pay via electronic fund transfer like zelle or cash?

How do they report it?

If you had to pay a sponsorship fee relative to salary, would you do it?

Slave labor ain't right

I'd rather not tax people making under $60k but have their salaries traceable

 

Net financial impact for who? We don't all benefit the same. Shareholders likely profit, consumers profit, workers not so much. Tax payers -- well we are borrowing from our grandkids, so who can say. But whether you get financial benefit depends on what mix you are of the above identities.

I'll stop there since this thread is just about the money. But I think that's the least interesting factor of the debate.

 

How Undocumented Immigrants Contribute to Our Economy & Pay Higher Tax Rates Than Many Major Corporations

In 2022 America’s 10.9 million undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in taxes.

• That included $19.5 billion in federal income taxes and $32.3 billion in federal payroll taxes.
• On a state and local level, undocumented immigrants contribute $37.3 billion in taxes, and in 40 of 50 states, they pay a higher effective state/local tax rate than the top 1% of households. The top 1% of highest-income households paid an average effective state/local tax of 7.2% in 2023, while the average undocumented immigrant paid a 10.1% effective tax rate to state/local governments.
• It is estimated that $40 to $137 billion of additional revenue could be generated each year if these people were granted work authorization. This is because a less exploitable workforce would be paid higher wages (thus pay more taxes) and tax compliance by both employers and employees would increase.

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Become a Non US citizen, sneak in, get a job.

 

Bringing hardworking families on work visa's is one of the most noble things we can do. Letting the coyotes do the work exponentially magnifies the trauma these people go through and is one of the most hideous things to support. And then the illegals arrive and get abused by soulless business owners and corporations, treating them essentially as a slave workforce.

Migrants have been some of the most gracious people I've had the pleasure to work with.

 

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Don't look at me. I'd give everyone work visas. Politicians haven't been able build a workable system.

 

Yeah

I think we need to streamline the concept of sponsorship, sponsorship fee's, and a long term path to citizenship. No reason anyone in the construction industry who hasn't put in 15 years of labor can't become a citizen. It's not only top 1% academic talent we want (in many cases these people are utterly useless compared to blue collar).

 

I mean, the way statistics work its completely impossible for every employer to pay above average wages.

 

The Ds would need to pass without a single R vote.

And the Rs would fund raise and run political ads off this vote like forever.