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Kilmar Abrego Garcia will not be returned to the US

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  1. Space Ghost

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    Trump calling up ICE:
    "Look, there is this guy. Garcia. Kilmar Abrago Garcia. He is up in Maryland. He is a great family man but I am an evil sycophant. Garcia is a law abiding guest of this country. I know this because the media told me so. And I know there is 341 million people in america. This Garcia. He is one of the 47m foreign born but I want to send him to a prison camp. Go get him and give me a minute by minute update. Oh and the only reason why I am doing this is because of this bigly intelligent guy Rileydog. He is much smarter than me. He is one of the most intelligent people in this country and I am terrified of him. We are going to deport Garcia to make Rileydog angry. He knows that I know Garcia is innocent. I know this because ... I just know. Out of all the important things being a president, every president know Garcia is innocent. Every president before me know this and every president after me knows this. Because Rileydog said so. Sent him to a foreign prison to rot. And the supreme court will rule that he should come back. But dont listen to them. Do not invade El Salvador to get him back when the great Bukele refuses to return his citizen."

    This is how you come across. Utterly clueless and stupid. Beyond belief. To think the President of the United States, of all matters he must address, knows everything about one random man in Maryland, to target him specifically ... for what purpose?? There are 3 million fed government employees and you literally think Trump micromanages all 3 million.

    So no, I can't answer your stupid question as I initially told you. Unlike you, I am not omniscient. Nor do I think Trump is reviewing the files of every American and micromanaging ICE. Nor does Trump know, much less me, if Garcia was ever a gang member back in El Salvador.
     
  2. Space Ghost

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    Because I know I am a clown and I do not take myself serious.

    You're that guy in the social media videos where a clown .... is clowning around and you're getting all angry. Its hilarious.
     
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    These ******* liberals are truly sick in the head. One can never have a truly meaningful conversation with them. They’re so far gone so only an act of God will restore them whole.
     
  4. CrixusTheUndefeatedGaul

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    That’s why I called dirtydog a pretend lawyer and a dumbass and then he got his feelings butthurt. Lol
     
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  5. Space Ghost

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    This is a lovely paradox.

    You believe in Democracy, correct? The will of the people is paramount.

    Question: Do you believe Bukeles approval numbers are legit? (91%). Lets just say ... give it a margin of error of 5%.

    Speaking strictly of El Salvador; Do you believe the United States constitution supersedes El Salvadors government and its citizens (who approve 91% of said actions taken)? Do you believe El Salvador should submit to American Democracy, release every one of its prisoners, going from one of the safest countrys back to one of the most violent and unsafe countries then hold trial? Or should America take a back seat and let El Salvador do its own things and stay out of its business ... like we did before and like we do with every other dangerous country on the planet.
     
  6. Xopher

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    You can't be serious. When has the United States, in modern history, stayed out of another country's business?
     
  7. astros123

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    So you're just a full time troll......
     
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    Deputy Assistant to the President and "Counterterrorism Czar" Sebastian Gorka says anyone advocating for due process for Kilmar Abrego Garcia could be viewed as "aiding and abetting a terrorist" and be federally charged.
     
  9. Space Ghost

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    This thread is a litmus test between those doing it right and those doing it wrong.

    Ive been following Bukele reign of terror every since he came into power (He is a Bitcoiner). He is extremely popular and well liked by the populist (which is pretty much his entire country) and hated by the global establishment. He has a great sense of humor and knows how to connect with the average person.
    Bukele is very reasonable and he wouldn't lock up a high profile personal like this for political posturing. Now that said, Garcia very well could have been mistaken and Bukele could have him holed up in a nice residence just to stick it to the Democrats.
    The more likely scenario is that Garcia was involved in some nasty gang activity years ago and fled to the United States to get out of that lifestyle. Dude has 2 immigration strikes against him and a restraining order. That is a lot of bad luck for an innocent man.
     
  10. Space Ghost

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    Not quite a full time troll. Reasonable takes get reasonable responses. Dumb takes get troll responses.
     
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  11. Space Ghost

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    Valid point. However we are doing a decent job of staying out of Sudan. Still looking for those rare earth elements.
     
  12. fchowd0311

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    Ya that's a pretty damn high approval rating. You can't question that level of popularity. That's like Kim Jong Un level of popularity from his people.

    Bukele is becoming one of the great leaders of his people like the Kim family of North Korea.
     
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    That's alot of "Trust me bro".

    I told you this yesterday, and you've been told that it's not about Garcia, or Bukkake, or Trump. It's about the rule of law, and due process.

    Should people have due process or are you supporting a system that allows a President with dictatorial powers to operate above the law JUST BECAUSE YOU TRUST HIM??

    I know you are saying that you trust Bukkake, and Trump but why should I? I know I might have trusted Obama and Biden if the roles were reversed but why should you??

    Isn't that why we have the rule of law and Due Process? I know you love this Bukkake guy and being a bitcoiner obviously means you are super cool, but shouldn't even super cool presidents also still have to abide by the rule of law???
     
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    Your more likely scenario appears to be the scenario which fits your pre-existing political narrative.

    Garcia appears to have been brought to the US by his family, when was 16..


    Who is Kilmar Ábrego García

    Ábrego García, 29, is a Salvadorian immigrant who entered the US illegally around 2011 because he and his family were facing threats by local gangs.

    In 2019, he was detained by police outside a Home Depot in Maryland, with several other men, and asked about a murder. He denied knowledge of a crime and repeatedly denied that he was part of a gang.

    He was subsequently put in immigration proceedings, where officials argued they believed he was part of the MS-13 gang in New York based on his Chicago Bulls gear and on the word of a confidential informant.

    A US immigration judge granted him protection from deportation to El Salvador because he was likely to face gang persecution. He was released and Immigration and Customs Enforcement (Ice) did not appeal the decision or try to deport him to another country.

    Ábrego García was living in Maryland with his wife, a US citizen, and has had a work permit since 2019. The couple are parents to their son and her two children from a previous relationship.

     
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    We have approval ratings bro. 91%. That's all we need to know.
     
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    Bro.... He's a Crypto guy. That means he's super cool, and you should just trust him, and he then doesn't have to abide by the rule of law.

    HOWEVER.... he did commit the worst sin ever by not wearing a tie in the oval office which means it's now justified for Russia to invade their country, and bomb them to smithereens.
     
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    His crime honestly is he just cares too much about his people.
     
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    Wait.. hold on. The piece of evidence that they are holding on to justify that he's part of a gang was.... he was wearing a Chicago Bulls hat or t-shirt????

    Hahaha. It's sad of course, but this is just laughably stupid. So if I go to Lowes with the old school Stevie Franchise pin striped jersey does that mean I'm part of ISIS??
     
  19. fchowd0311

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    The cop who wrote the "gang affiliation" report:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/cop-behind-ms-13-dad-164456463.html
     
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