Kilmar Abrego Garcia will not be returned to the US

Factually untrue.

Bukele does dragnet operations in poor neighborhoods and uses markers like tattoos to do mass arrests of entire neighborhoods and have like 60 people in a court room all get convicted without any trial process to CECOT.

CECOT has had over 50,000 humans by now. 0 have left the concentration camp alive. These are all indefinite detentions with no specific sentencing. These are antithetical to American values. You aren't American if you believe in this type of justice system. Supporting the erosion of due process and dragnet operations is far less American than advocating for the haunting of genocide of Palestinians. And Trump has arrested and detained humans for expressing support for Palestinians and saying that expression is anti-American and therefore against American interests. That would imply if someone like your illegal mother believed what Bukele was doing is good and America should do it, she should be sent to CECOT because that is a more anti-American desire than supporting Palestinians.

 

It's so difficult arguing with so much ignorance. You don't know **** about El Salvador.... Check his approval rating.. It worked, the people in El Salvador are free... More and more people are moving back and less people are trying to come here...

Because Bukele stripped them of due process and freedom? Lmao... Bruh I just can't with you... I've been going to El Salvador all my life.. Every year sometimes twice or more... I have never felt more safe, more free and more comfortable in El Salvador since Bukele took over... Everything is growing at an extremely rapid pace. Your bs does not coexist with real life .

Like I told your friend woke123 a year back when he was swearing up and down that people loved Biden, the economy was okay and that Trump would lose.

You can not tell people what they aren't experiencing with graphs and lies. Any Salvadorian would cuss you out for telling them they aren't safer and free....

Please stop, get help...

 

Did he get a trial?

 

"It worked"

"The country is free"

"APpRoVaL RaTiNg"

These are not claims that address that Bukkele does dragnet operations to round up hundreds of young males at a time based on things like tattoos, crams them into a single courtroom and mass convicts them with no semblance of due process and throws them in a concentration camp where all 50,000 humans that have been sent there have never left the camp alive where everyone in there has no sentence and is there indefinitely.

You are showing 4th grade reading and writing levels with an inability to address actual arguments made.

 

100%. And take immigration, the fact that the common sense solution is so obvious yet never brought up -- increased legal immigration with increased penalities for illegal immgration -- tells you how powerful groupthink is. Can only hope when the Left gets their chance they pick a sane centrist response, but one that actually fixes real problems instead of the phantom ones they've been emphasizing.

 

Garcia was in the middle of court proceedings. The federal court was waiting for evidence from the federal government that he was a member of ms13. The federal government decided they didn't want to do that and just skipped ahead to the "deport to concentration camp" part.

 

Increase penalties for the owners who exploit poor migrants, not the migrants themselves...

right?

Right?!?!

 

The Bipartisan immigration bill that congress agreed upon last year was a sane centrist bill that would've fixed the situation....would've hired thousands of more judges and CBP agents..

 

You feeling safe - and people being imprisoned without a fair trial - is not at all the same thing, and is not mutually exclusive. Right?

 

Nah it was not a sane bill. Democrats played into this mess. They brought into right wing framing of the immigration issue that there is actually a "security" problem and the public then were like "so the right was always right about border security and you called us racist this entire time for caring about it?"

Kamala literally opened up to the idea of a border wall in the last election when in 2019, she called the border wall "racist".

 

Democrats instead of saying "illegal immigrants aren't your landlord or your CEO who did mass layoffs" they said "the GOP was right all this time but vote for us because they aren't voting for our border security bill at this moment".

 

We need more immigration judges and officers......there's nothing wrong with more officials to process claims...... lefties should believe in strong state capacity...

 

Yes absolutely but that bill was A LOT more than just more judges.

 

Immigration courts are not article 3 judges. That doesn't diminish their importance in the operation of the immigration system. The same immigration judge agreed that he failed the process to get asylum, but also protected him from getting deported to El Salvador.

Should it matter that the facts on the ground have changed in El Salvador where the gangs have been eliminated more or less? Then again, if that matters, then it should also matter that El Salvador didn't release him into society, but into CECOT, which would buttress the logic for the protection order.

From wiki
Roger Parloff of Lawfare notes that since neither the officer nor the informant were cross-examined, the accusation went through two layers of hearsay to reach the immigration court.[22] An immigration judge in a bond hearing determined that the informant's claim[27] was sufficient evidence for the purpose of denying Abrego Garcia's bond request; another judge upheld that ruling on appeal, saying the claim was not clearly wrong.[23] However, no court has ever made a "full adjudication" of this issue.[23] David Bier, associate director of immigration studies at the Cato Institute, notes that the standards of evidence are lower in an immigration bond hearing than in a trial; in a bond hearing, the government's statement is assumed true and the burden of proof is on the defendant.[28] Abrego Garcia has consistently denied any connection to MS-13.[29]

October 2019 immigration court proceeding
A few months after his marriage, Abrego Garcia applied for asylum and withholding of removal.[31] His request for asylum was denied, as one must submit an asylum application within a year of arriving in the U.S.[2] However, an immigration judge, David M. Jones, granted him "withholding of removal" status that would prevent his deportation to El Salvador due to the threat that gangs would pose to him, finding that there was a "clear probability of future persecution" there and that he had "demonstrated that [El Salvador's][c] authorities were and would be unable or unwilling to protect him."[24][17]

Roger Parloff of Lawfare highlighted that Judge Jones also ruled that Abrego Garcia was "credible", as Abrego Garcia's "testimony was internally consistent, externally consistent with his asylum application and other documents, and appeared free of embellishment. Further, he provided substantial documentation buttressing his claims."[22]

Shortly after he won "withholding of removal" status, Abrego Garcia was released from custody and ICE did not appeal.[31][22] The Department of Homeland Security granted him a work permit,[34] and he had lived and worked legally in Maryland until his deportation.[35] According to his attorney, after Abrego Garcia's release from detention in 2019 until he was taken into custody in March 2025, his only encounters with law enforcement were his annual required check-ins with ICE.[24]

Meaning of withholding of removal
Hosted on ICE's website, a guide by the Florence Immigrant and Refugee Rights Project describes withholding of removal status as "similar to asylum," but requiring a higher burden of proof.[36] Additionally, "if another country is willing to accept you, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) may try to send you there instead."[36]

 

My issue isn't with the citizen/ non-citizen division of protections. Citizens already have many more protections. My issue is that this administration too often shoots first and aims second. And when collateral damage surely occurs when precision and process are thrown out the window, instead of going back and fixing legal wrongs, it doubles down on being legally wrong by saying they're morally right. And that's just 3rd world monarchy crap to me.

 

After the prosecutor admitted in court to the judge that they deported him by mistake they could've fixed the mistake. Instead they fired the career prosecutor and disparaged them as being, "woke prosecutor" and doubled down.

Banana republic

 

You stupid woke clowns please keep this up. You losers will never win another election in my lifetime. This D&D is truly a cesspool loaded with infected woke zombies. Trump did what he promised his voters by shutting that border and sending these gangbanger scums back to where they belong. Only assholes like you liberals who hate America will die on this hill by feinting outrage.

I’m not surprised in a week or two, you clowns will find something else to be angry about. Liberalism is truly a mental disorder.

 

Republicans have been losing state and local races consistently since Trump was elected.

I said years ago if Trump was reelected that he would implode the party.

Now let’s see who is right. Your prediction here or the one I made 2+ years ago.

 

It’s a nice dream only to be awakened by MAGA. Lol