Kilmar Abrego Garcia will not be returned to the US

This thread should be renamed 'Trump's Gulag'

 

TIL that Trump voters don't give a **** about the Constitution or the history of the USA.

 

"That Mexican with the nice ass, the one they call AOC. That one, she has become a thorn in my side. Get me Pam on the phone, we need to deport her Mexican ass to El Salvador and she how she likes being in prison. Get me Pam Bondi on the phone so we can make this happen."

 

It is coming - fascists eat the vulnerable of their own supporters once they eat all those that oppose them.

 

I'll take the under. The Trump regime already has several students in ICE detention centers.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/31/us/what-we-know-college-activists-immigration-hnk/index.html

 

He's both. Salvy's parents are El Salvadoran illegals and he's still a Trump boot licker.

 

And conservatives don't care about victims of social injustice
And liberals don't care about aborted fetuses
And conservatives don't care about women having control of their bodies

On and on and on and on

 

It's hard to engage with such a disingenuous argument. If I understand correctly, he is claiming that liberals are hypocrites because we "don't care" about problems like inner city gang violence. That's a broad brush to paint with and it's deliberately obtuse. He likely knows that a lot of factors go into gang violence: easy access to guns, a lack of education, decaying economic opportunity, weak family and social structures, the impact of generational incarceration, the legacy of discrimination, etc. It's all one big pie; some ingredients matter more than others, but it's been baked and nobody wants to eat the whole thing. He basically argues that because the outcome (gang violence) hasn't gone away liberals don't care about the causes or the impact. That is so wrong that it doesn't merit consideration.

What makes the point especially gross is that it conflates something complicated (gang violence) with something simple (the government wrongly kidnapping a lawful resident, throwing him into a foreign gulag, and pretending it can't do anything about it) and says that because both things are bad nobody can honestly critique them. While both examples are man-made, only one of them was made by a single man.

That dog don't hunt.

 

the gay hairdresser is a different dude. then there is the soccer player with a real madrid tattoo.

 

BS. you are the primary poster in this thread cheering on an innocent mans life being completely chattered(?) this way. you keep lying in this thread in order to defend trumps decision to send him to el salvador. you and the trumpers are the ones engaging in "pure politics". and double BS on your claim that he has a better shot of going free without massive media push.

trump is playing politics with this. he doesnt want to bring him back for many reasons, one of which is that he doesnt want to give his "enemies" a win.

 

wow. if thats true that makes him even more pathetic than i already thought he was.

 

He’s not a U.S. citizen, but that doesn’t mean he has no rights here. Multiple immigration judges ruled he couldn’t be deported because he faced credible threats in El Salvador. And the Supreme Court unanimously (9-0) ordered his return because his deportation was illegal.

The viral claim that “two courts found he was MS-13” is false. Here’s what actually happened:

• Judge Kessler called ICE’s gang claim “trustworthy,” but that was based on an uncross-examined detective relying on an anonymous informant - double hearsay.
• The “evidence”? He wore a Chicago Bulls hat and a hoodie.
• ICE claimed he belonged to a gang based in Long Island, NY, a state he’s never even lived in.
• His attorney later found out the detective who made the accusation had actually been suspended.

Kessler denied bail based on that. But then another judge, Judge Jones, held a full hearing, found Abrego Garcia credible, and granted him withholding of removal. ICE released him. For five years, he lived peacefully with his family, working as a union apprentice, raising three special-needs children with his U.S. citizen wife.

Then in March 2025, ICE suddenly detained him while he was driving with his disabled 5-year-old son, and deported him to CECOT, a prison so notorious that a federal judge recently said detainees face “immediate and intentional life-threatening harm."

You should know that in the 2025 case, the government didn’t even try to bring up the gang allegations again. They’ve since admitted the deportation was an “administrative error.” If they genuinely believed he was MS-13, you’d expect that claim to be front and center in their legal filings, not just somethign they toss around in the media. But it's not. They're leaning on the narrative for political spin because they know it wouldn't hold up in court.

More importantantly, this isn’t just about immigration politics, it’s about whether we still follow the rule of law. If we can start ignoring court orders and Supreme Court rulings, we’re not a nation of laws anymore.

 

I think a big reason that the Trump administration is refusing to bring Garcia back is because it would set a precedent. They really don't care whether he's innocent or not. They just don't want all the others who were deported to be able to make the same legal case.

Though I must say, using the El Salvadorean president as an excuse ("he refuses to send him back.") was a new low.

 

Its purely political now, its not about giving the woke a win its about not giving them an avenue to stop future deportations of criminals to El Salvador. I don't expect Trump to save this guy... He won't.....

So what about Bukele? I don't expect him to ruin relations with The U.S over this guy either because setting him free puts the entire country in a worse position especially after all the work that has been done to bring down crime and raise the economy. This happens all the time in every legal system in the world unfortunately, I'm not entirely sure this guy was MS13 to be honest, and to be honest I'm not entirely sure he wasn't. But you got what you wanted. Make Trump and Bukele look bad because at least you planted a little seed of doubt. This guy if not MS13 is going to pay for it, he probably had a better shot at getting investigated and set free in El Salvador a few months from now because believe it or not thousands have been given due process in El Salvador and set free.... Not anymore, I doubt most of ya'll trully care about this rando Salvadorian.... I doubt most of yall care about the millions of deaths MS13 has caused El Salvador which is why they are being hunted down. Its political, just own it...

 

"I'm incapable of empathy so you probably are too"

 

its purely political for you and trump. for the rest of us its about the rule of law, the constitution and due process.

you keep calling garcia a criminal and lying about him. you keep spewing lies in order to defend him being sent away.

no it doesnt you liar.

talking out of both sides of your mouth. how trumpy.

you are saying the quiet part out loud. you and trump are worried about making him look bad instead of following the rule of law and basic human decency. very telling comment on your part about your true motives.

more lies from you.

i care about our democracy, the rule of law, the constitution, due process and basic human decency. you clearly dont.

so much projecting from you when you accuse others of playing politics. its clearly political for YOU. just own it. youre the own who has been spewing lie after lie in here in order to defend what trump did. youre the one playing politics...and then accusing others of doing it...pathetic.

 

Whatever, this will blow over in a few days and you can move on to your new npc programming. He is from El Salvador, El Salvador will give him "mah due proCess"..... Your interest in a non American is laughable because under different circumstances you wouldn't give a single ****....