It's not a given but Rodgers has shown that he is above an .850 OPS hitter at Coors. If he can adjust to sea level, He has all-star potential.
Coors made Helton one of the weakest HOF members. Chas has shown he’s a .840 hitter without Mount Everest. But like your sentiment suggests, both players have something to prove.
No Chas showed he WAS a .840 hitter and he never did it as a regular starter. Blame Dusty or not, he never played 5-6 games per week over an extended period of time and kept up above average run production. And, again maybe not his fault. Maybe he hasn't gotten a fair shake, but it's been a while since he has been good over even a small sample size. Edit: I looked it up and Chas played more than I remembered in 2023. He did have 91 PAs w/ 1.128 OPS in July which absolutely qualifies.
The point was he didn't need altitude like Rodgers did. Also, Chas had two good months last season https://www.espn.com/mlb/player/gamelog/_/id/40574/year/2024/category/batting Spoiler Between Chas and Meyers, McCormick has had the better career and it's not really close. .
Chas has had 50+ PAs in a month 14 times in his career. He hit that .840 mark you reference in 4 of them. He was under .750 in 7 ( half) of them. Including under .700 in 3 and .704 and .705 in 2 others. Not even looking at PAs, Chas has hit .840 or better 5 times in 25 months in MLB. I dispute your claim that he has shown to be a .840 hitter.
Yes but he didn't have 50 PAs in either of them. And he had 4 terrible months. But over the past 4 years, he may be the best OF, besides Tucker ( and Yordan) on this roster. He was just misused and/or not healthy for much of it
Okay... now explore that same research for Meyers -- the numbers will be worse. I'm not saying Chas should be expected to hit .840, but he did achieve it one season. He's also been a better hitter than Meyers over the course of their careers. Well, you said over even a small sample size.
I would not dispute this. But I still think Meyers is the better player in 2025. And its looking like 15 years from now we will be saying he had the better career. That doesn't mean that Jake is good, just that bar is pretty low.
I'm mot disputing this Edit: Meyers has really only had 2 very good offensive months in his carrer: His 1st, August 2021= .838 in 80 PAs and last May = .924 in 96 He has 19 different months in MLB and under .600 in 7 of them while over .700 in only 6 of them.
Yes, if you ignore defensive value for one of the 5 best defensive CF in the league, he doesn’t look like a very good player. It is really interesting how Meyers has been a really good player when health in April and May, but faded over the 2nd half the last 2 seasons. 2021: called up in August and looked very good 2022: hurt 2023-2024: looked very good thru May then looked very bad June thru Sept.
Helton OPS Home - 1.048 Road - .855 400 HRs No 1500 RBIs No MVPs 0 Playoffs Sucked No way he's a HOF (and even that's borderline) without altitude. He's in the Hall of Very Good.
Who knows what he would have hit outside of Coors for his career. He's also the best defensive 1B you'll ever see. He's the reason Bagwell didn't have multiple GGs
Prob 0-50 points higher than that Coors Field has made many hitters Maybe you're thinking JT Snow Bags and Todd didn't overlap as much.
Stop being so awkward, bud Their careers overlapped for 7 full seasons. Helton never playing home games at Coors would have changed his career. Just like Bagwell not playing home games in the Dome.
Helton's first GG was right around the time Jeff's arm started falling off. Snow's rookie season was Bagwell's sophomore. Grace and JT were the main reasons, along with big market bias. Helton was a borderline HOFer, who was greatly aided by Kilimangaro.
Both Tucker and Bregman are off to sizzling starts. Tucker is over .300 and Bregman is just under, the hottest early season start in I can't remember when. I guess the change motivated them.
