The Official President Trump Thread - Second Term Edition

Just this week a chip maker said they were going to build a plant, BMW, Eli Lily etc.... There's a reason they're doing this and yes those jobs in the USA will be $25 an hr jobs. Companies that relocate here wont have to pay tariffs and will get tax breaks to help keep costs down.

 

If you repeat this 10 times in a mirror every morning you can treat it like those affirmations those self help guru grifters recommend you to do every morning in a mirror to believe in yourself.

The more you repeat it as a affirmation the more lowly it might come true. Keep on working at it warrior.

 

Crowd at UFC 314 POPPED when DJT walked in.

 

I’m so confused. Trump is a genius, right? If his plan is so successful, why is he folding like a little b-tch?

As for the examples you cite, the chip maker you reference is presumably TSMC. Let’s see, who got TSMC to commit to building three plants through the CHIPS act …. Without engaging in moronic tariff wars?

BMW announced its expansion of its NC plant in …. 2024? Having trouble with memory? Or crediting the right administration for economic expansion?

You did get Eli Lilly right. I’m quite curious who “etc” is … because it sure does give the impression there is a huge queue of companies lining up to commit billions to build factories here despite the tariffs being on on Monday, off on Thursday, and good luck deciphering what’s going on over the weekend through 7th grade level truth social posts from your idiot president.

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But let’s talk about these jobs. You contend they will pay $25 an hour. Awesome, I’ll take your word for it.

Who is qualified to get these jobs at Eli Lilly? Eli Lilly has said the plants will make drugs and will employ a bunch of engineers, scientists, skilled operators. I’m quite confused … why are the engineers, scientists and skilled operators getting such a shitty $25/hour salary? Also, I think it’s great that these highly educated and highly skilled people will have more jobs to choose from, but here I thought you were worried about the folks in America who need help the most … you know, blue collar America. I have the same questions about TSMC.

Barnstorming across red states and rural America, Trump promised that he’s gonna make America great again and bring them new prosperity and manufacturing jobs back to them, you know, because manufacturing should have never left.

My last question is this - how are these people getting these new factory jobs? Will they teleport to work? Will they be like Neo in the Matrix and just magically acquire knowledge, skills and degrees?

The fantasy of good paying manufacturing jobs is so beautiful. I can just see it now. Rural America is gonna operate the TSMC chip manufacturing facilities and make Eli Lilly drugs for the next generation. If this dream comes true, we won’t have to worry about tariffs anymore. US made chips will cause stuff to explode and we will have massive illness/death and drug recalls. But hey, rural America will have these factories to employ them for generations, just like in the glory days.

*** Ultimately, I hope you can actually apply some basic logic through this very simple discussion. Ask yourself - under what scenario is manufacturing going to come back to deliver “good paying jobs” that will allow families to be employed for decades, like in the good old days. If you can articulate that scenario, you might consider submitting it for a Nobel prize because that’s been an unsolvable problem for decades.

(The reason it has been unsolvable is because it is pure fantasy land.)

 

Brah ufc fans are so annoying. They are either obese and live their lives though a UFC fighter because they are too lazy to join a boxing or MMA gym or they are full blown Nazi skinheads in some fight club. Nothing in between. I'm assuming you are the former?

 

Who said Trump was a genius? certainly not me. You lost me after the 1st sentence. Also companies are starting to re-invest in the USA and they're doing this within the 1st 100 days. Times are changing and it's going to be a long 4 years for you socialist libs.

 

Is Trump more intelligent than you?

 

I mean who doesn’t want to pay 100 dollars plus for 4 hours of grown men nearly naked with their heads in between each others legs??

I really wish I was the alpha those UFC bros are.

(I actually did used to like the UFC back when they had a mix of different specialists and not just guys trained with the same boring MMA bag of skills that now usually just leads to matches of watching bald heads in between butt cheeks).

 

Following combat sports has never been my thing. I usually stick with your traditional team sports.

But personally for my own fitness, I do prefer boxing over UFC gyms. Especially if you don't have a fighting background, boxing is the quickest way to become competent at self defense as it teaches the basic of footwork, striking and evading. Also I feel like boxing gyms are more obsessed with conditioning and fitness than MMA gyms.

As a dude on the smaller side weighing only 155 at 5'9", I figure any self defense fight I encounter id rather train to have quick feet(a **** ton of skipping rope training ) and evade rather than learn MMA submission techniques because more than likely in a actual street fight in more likely l to do quick strikes and evade than try to make a 6'3" 220 lb dude submit to me.

Hence why I don't know why someone like a 120 lb girl learns MMA submission techniques over boxing. The odds of someone on that size successfully executing a submission on their attacker is far less likely than being able to do quick strikes , evade and run which I think boxing is really good at.

 

@raining threes

I will gladly rescind my first sentence about Trump being a genius. You didn’t like it and I respect that. Now you don’t have to stop at the first sentence since it is gone. I engaged you on the points you made about good factory jobs that will pay $25/hour. What is your response?

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As for the examples you cite, the chip maker you reference is presumably TSMC. Let’s see, who got TSMC to commit to building three plants through the CHIPS act …. Without engaging in moronic tariff wars?

BMW announced its expansion of its NC plant in …. 2024? Having trouble with memory? Or crediting the right administration for economic expansion?

You did get Eli Lilly right. I’m quite curious who “etc” is … because it sure does give the impression there is a huge queue of companies lining up to commit billions to build factories here despite the tariffs being on on Monday, off on Thursday, and good luck deciphering what’s going on over the weekend through 7th grade level truth social posts from your idiot president.

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But let’s talk about these jobs. You contend they will pay $25 an hour. Awesome, I’ll take your word for it.

Who is qualified to get these jobs at Eli Lilly? Eli Lilly has said the plants will make drugs and will employ a bunch of engineers, scientists, skilled operators. I’m quite confused … why are the engineers, scientists and skilled operators getting such a shitty $25/hour salary? Also, I think it’s great that these highly educated and highly skilled people will have more jobs to choose from, but here I thought you were worried about the folks in America who need help the most … you know, blue collar America. I have the same questions about TSMC.

Barnstorming across red states and rural America, Trump promised that he’s gonna make America great again and bring them new prosperity and manufacturing jobs back to them, you know, because manufacturing should have never left.

My last question is this - how are these people getting these new factory jobs? Will they teleport to work? Will they be like Neo in the Matrix and just magically acquire knowledge, skills and degrees?

The fantasy of good paying manufacturing jobs is so beautiful. I can just see it now. Rural America is gonna operate the TSMC chip manufacturing facilities and make Eli Lilly drugs for the next generation. If this dream comes true, we won’t have to worry about tariffs anymore. US made chips will cause stuff to explode and we will have massive illness/death and drug recalls. But hey, rural America will have these factories to employ them for generations, just like in the glory days.

*** Ultimately, I hope you can actually apply some basic logic through this very simple discussion. Ask yourself - under what scenario is manufacturing going to come back to deliver “good paying jobs” that will allow families to be employed for decades, like in the good old days. If you can articulate that scenario, you might consider submitting it for a Nobel prize because that’s been an unsolvable problem for decades.

(The reason it has been unsolvable is because it is pure fantasy land.)[/QUOTE]

 

this sounds exactly like something someone who claims found a penny in a parking lot which allowed them to buy a newspaper and get a job would say!

 

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So only scientists/engineers etc.. will be able to get jobs working at Lily. Do you know how many people work at say HP as an example that make good money that aren't engineers. You've got marketing/writers/testing people/ heck everybody down to maintenance and janitors that make a decent living working for HP in Houston. Thousands of workers, this will be the same in other industries.

 

I don't usually post on this part of CF, but I just wanted to mention that the dude's doctor is claiming that he's in world-class condition because of his golfing and is the same height and weight and Jae'Sean Tate... because at least that sh*t is pretty f***ing funny, unlike everything else he's doing.

All right, back to the GARM with me where I can go on using this place as an escape from reality (mostly).

 

I don't think Buck believes that Trump gives a **** about labor.

 

This is not at all or remotely surprising.

His approval rating is down to 46% - it could be 30% and Trump would still get a loud ovation at a UFC event.

It is like saying that the audience at the View popped when AOC strolled in.

 

So only scientists/engineers etc.. will be able to get jobs working at Lily. Do you know how many people work at say HP as an example that make good money that aren't engineers. You've got marketing/writers/testing people/ heck everybody down to maintenance and janitors that make a decent living working for HP in Houston. Thousands of workers, this will be the same in other industries.[/QUOTE]

edit: @raining threes I screwed up the quoting of your post above so you’re not tagged. Anyway…

ah good, a substantive response.

I will agree with you that Eli Lilly’s pharmaceutical plants will employ people other than doctors, scientists, engineers and skilled operators. That is a fair point. Not an emphasis of Eli Lilly’s announcement, but true nonetheless. I don’t have a breakdown or a guess as to what percentage of the jobs will be of the educated skilled variety, to marketing/administration, to maintenance and janitors. I would hazard a guess that the overwhelming economic benefit in terms of jobs and earnings for new plants go to the first first bucket, the educated and skilled.

Yet at least two points remain unresolved: (1) are maintenance and janitor jobs “good paying jobs”? (Perhaps admin, marketing, HR, testing can be considered decent jobs, although I’m not how far that gets you in Houston, but at least it is a start and maybe you can move up); (2) how does any of this help the masses of people who are unqualified for “good paying jobs” or cant get to these less than good paying jobs?

One major premise of this whole tariff war was that (1) it would bring back good paying manufacturing jobs, and (2) Trump would bring those jobs to rural America and towns that had lost those prior manufacturing jobs.

Are we prepared to conclude that it was a lie? That there is no universe in which “good paying” manufacturing jobs are going to magically appear for the folks in rural America or former industrial towns?

 

edit: @raining threes I screwed up the quoting of your post above so you’re not tagged. Anyway…

ah good, a substantive response.

I will agree with you that Eli Lilly’s pharmaceutical plants will employ people other than doctors, scientists, engineers and skilled operators. That is a fair point. Not an emphasis of Eli Lilly’s announcement, but true nonetheless. I don’t have a breakdown or a guess as to what percentage of the jobs will be of the educated skilled variety, to marketing/administration, to maintenance and janitors. I would hazard a guess that the overwhelming economic benefit in terms of jobs and earnings for new plants go to the first first bucket, the educated and skilled.

Yet at least two points remain unresolved: (1) are maintenance and janitor jobs “good paying jobs”? (Perhaps admin, marketing, HR, testing can be considered decent jobs, although I’m not how far that gets you in Houston, but at least it is a start and maybe you can move up); (2) how does any of this help the masses of people who are unqualified for “good paying jobs” or cant get to these less than good paying jobs?

One major premise of this whole tariff war was that (1) it would bring back good paying manufacturing jobs, and (2) Trump would bring those jobs to rural America and towns that had lost those prior manufacturing jobs.

Are we prepared to conclude that it was a lie? That there is no universe in which “good paying” manufacturing jobs are going to magically appear for the folks in rural America or former industrial towns?[/QUOTE]


I didn't see where he said they would be building manufacturing jobs to rural areas. However you should see the rail/wharehouse terminal complex that they're currently building on Toll road 99 just outside of the small town of Dayton Tx. It's quite impressive. There's something happening there.

 

When I started doing JuJitsu, I remember teacher immediately having me train with a guy that was a former wrestler at the University of Michigan. After my first day I pulled the teacher aside and said "You know, I am surprised you had me training with that guy, I have never done Jujitsu before." Teacher looked at me and said, "You are like six and a half feet tall and have to be 260 pounds. I have to match you with someone large because there are limits to what skill can overcome." I naively said "You mean that some of these higher ranked trainers could not spar or fight me?" and he said "No, at a certain point size just wins out over leverage and skill".

So - I agree with you, a 150 lbs person would have a better chance knocking me out catching we with a quick strike and stunning someone large, than trying to grapple with them. In JuJitsu I have a few times fought people in training that were 50 lbs or more lighter than me, and when they do get a lock on me, I can simply overwhelm them with size.

 

Yup if I'm in an unfortunate situation where I have to defend my self from a 240 lb hauss I'm going for a kidney shot and evading.

Too much liability with trying to do knock out upper cuts to the jaw but obviously in a desperate situation sometimes you just don't think about things like liability in the moment especially if you are facing someone a lot larger than you.