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Checks notes: The Astros' management of payroll and hoarding prospects have led to infinitely more World Series championships than when the Astros disregarded payroll and traded away prospects willy-nilly.
Okay, let's accept that. The Astros have still never won a World Series except with homegrown players in which they were accused of hoarding for many years prior.
Like the time we got and kept Verlander? Or when we invested in Cole and Greinke to get to the World Series mulitple times?
This is correct but we've made plenty of trades where we've added key pieces that we wouldn't have won a WS without. Outside of the Fiers/Gomez and Vazquez trades, we have kept the right prospects while trading others away that didn't pan out.
Cole and Greinke never won. Musgrove would not have sat in the bullpen like a little b$%& in 2019. Verlander would never have been acquired if it wasn't for Altuve, Springer, Correa, Bregman, Gurriel, Marisnick, Keuchel, and McCullers. The vast majority of why the Astros won in 2017 and 2022 was home-grown talent. Go ahead, pine over not trading Bregman for Sale or Altuve, Springer, and McCullers for Jose Fernandez. If acquiring Verlander by trade makes you think the Astros weren't built on homegrown talent in 2017 and 2022 (i.e., prospects), that is just a weird position to take.
For a final piece, a trade or free agency is worth it. And a season is not a failure for making it to the World Series even if it only means a Pennant and not trophy.
A non-Astros thread about the current MLB season seems like an excellent place for a discussion about Astros history from 2-9 years ago.
