NYTimes, mythbusters?!? http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/24/politics/campaign/24points.html?oref=login -- Secret Weapon for Bush? By JOHN TIERNEY To Bush-bashers, it may be the most infuriating revelation yet from the military records of the two presidential candidates: the young George W. Bush probably had a higher I.Q. than did the young John Kerry. That, at least, is the conclusion of Steve Sailer, a conservative columnist at the Web magazine Vdare.com and a veteran student of presidential I.Q.'s. During the last presidential campaign Mr. Sailer estimated from Mr. Bush's SAT score (1206) that his I.Q. was in the mid-120's, about 10 points lower than Al Gore's. Mr. Kerry's SAT score is not known, but now Mr. Sailer has done a comparison of the intelligence tests in the candidates' military records. They are not formal I.Q. tests, but Mr. Sailer says they are similar enough to make reasonable extrapolations. Mr. Bush's score on the Air Force Officer Qualifying Test at age 22 again suggests that his I.Q was the mid-120's, putting Mr. Bush in about the 95th percentile of the population, according to Mr. Sailer. Mr. Kerry's I.Q. was about 120, in the 91st percentile, according to Mr. Sailer's extrapolation of his score at age 22 on the Navy Officer Qualification Test. Linda Gottfredson, an I.Q. expert at the University of Delaware, called it a creditable analysis said she was not surprised at the results or that so many people had assumed that Mr. Kerry was smarter. "People will often be misled into thinking someone is brighter if he says something complicated they can't understand," Professor Gottfredson said. Many Americans still believe a report that began circulating on the Internet three years ago, and was quoted in "Doonesbury," that Mr. Bush's I.Q. was 91, the lowest of any modern American president. But that report from the non-existent Lovenstein Institute turned out to be a hoax. You might expect Kerry campaign officials, who have worried that their candidate's intellectual image turns off voters, to quickly rush out a commercial trumpeting these new results, but for some reason they seem to be resisting the temptation. Upon hearing of their candidate's score, Michael Meehan, a spokesman for the senator, said merely: "The true test is not where you start out in life, but what you do with those God-given talents. John Kerry's 40 years of public service puts him in the top percentile on that measure."
They are both intelligent men. I think one of them has it all wrong and has the wrong advisors, but I think they are both intelligent. However, this "expert" that says he can extrapolate the IQ from some 35 year old tests from the military must have an IQ of about 23.
I've been reading some stuff that Bush is a lot smarter than he lets on. Looking at his past campaigns, he was eloquent, when he ran for the house, he surprisingly lost because he came off as too much of an intellectual. I think his dumbness, as well as his grabbing hold of Christianity, are both things he uses to cater to the majority of the states in the country.
Perfect ten on my second try. There is a spot just left of center where Dubya stops moving for a second.
My IQ has been measured between 140 to 165. What does that mean? Jack **** in real life. People think Bush is dumb because he makes dumb decisions. Like going to war by himself without a plan. Like trying to stimulate the economy by giving tax cuts to rich people. The proof is in the pudding. Gdubb is the Steve Francis of presidents. Plenty popular with the common folk, but no one that knows anything about the subject would consider them smart.
no they think he is dumb because he cant speak in formal settings and continually mangles the english language.
Well I have a higher IQ than both of them... ... so I guess you all should vote WILLIS25 in '08 !!!! I promose a picture on every post and a holiday for tinman on Juwan Howard's birthday (see the regular forum if you need an explaination) seriously... all it means is that someone can learn things faster, not that that person is inherently smarter. I technially when I was in school I had a higher IQ than both of them and all it has done for me is made me able to do the little brain testers in the back pages of Discovery magazine while I am waiting in my dentists' lobby oh... and get through law school
Ted Bundy had an exceptionally high IQ Dr Phill says having an high IQ is a sign that your child could become a serial killer http://www.drphil.com/advice/advice...xml§ion=Parenting&subsection=Raising Kids
All IQ tests only test how well you can do on IQ tests. It's something of a tautology. Language and math skills are a necessity but beyond that, not much else gets proven. And if his history with the law and getting into Yale and the National Guard are any examples, he probably had help with that IQ test. Anyways Shrub never apparently did well in economics or history or anything else for that matter except his fraternity. He did move up the "A" leagues in intramural basketball though. http://www.georgewbush.org/bios/yale-transcript.asp
