Kamala was not a good speaker. Everything has to be scripted. I am not sure how she made it so far politically. The Democrats need to run a white guy. It is better than the craziness we have now.
Oooh... a little out in the open racism Expected I am not a quote unquote Republican, I have voted Dem in the past
You say this like Chicago isn't a cesspool that elected Lightfoot. That city will never be happy until they persecute and drive out every progressive DA and prosecute violence and drug related crimes. The issue is Chicago has too many basic voters to know this is what they need. Instead, their latest mayor gets more upset at microaggressions and implications of the word thug than 26 black kids dying in a weekend.
I agree with this - however I don't out and out disqualify someone for being a billionaire. Trump is doing what establishment politicians never could. His background as a media guy, personality and being from money gave him the platform to do this. Alot of non billionaires are constantly groveling and shilling for corporations. Ultimately it comes down to the person. There is nothing more pathetic than forever govt guys like Newsom who's only skill is doing the bare minimum to prevent a mutiny. So many have made careers out of that.
We are talking about 2028... yet your thoughts are still based on Trump. Your delusion of "if there's an election" is the fear mongering real world people roll our eyes at. Your gullible mind has nothing to do with Trump. The Republicans won't have the cult of personality then. Centrism is the ONLY way to show you are the adults in the room and have the rationale to lead. The Biden Kamala years lost that middle ground in all demographics. Every county shifted right. MAGA is a figment of your TDS. They're not Jan 6ers, they're patriotic middle class Americans who made noise due to how far left the dems went. They are a creation of the left, not Trump. Your entire view on this is muddled because of how you've convinced yourself you need to react to him at every corner. Cooler heads prevail and in this country, no matter how much media you consume, the majority of Americans aren't strictly Right or Left, they are somewhere in the middle. If , as an individual , you want to win via tiring people out with extremism and which candidate do they hate less, good luck being left behind.
Can you lay out the dreams the left wants? There was nothing centrist about Biden Harris. It was symbolic of the far left takeover of institutions, media and organizations that scared Americans shitless. A run of the mill frontman doesn't change the policies the deep state was pushing. Majorkas and his open invite under the rationale that no one is illegal perfectly highlighted this. Just bring back the adults who don't have 1 million private contractors doing the work to avoid accountability. The Obama model works.
Go be centrist and moderate all you want with your vote. But it isn't my TDS that blackmailed private universities and private law firms to support the president's agenda, that uses deportation as an extrajudicial punishment for dissident speech, that usurps the power of Congress to set spending and define agency missions, that tries to redefine our civil rights by executive writ, that tries to bully courts into legitimizing the power grab. We are losing the republic right before our eyes and you don't even know what you're looking at. In a corporate training session on mass shooters, out trainer said something that struck me. When people in public see something alarming, the first thing they do is look at everybody else to see what a socially appropriate reaction would be. They don't want to look like a fool running away if they were mistaken thinking it was a shooter. I see a lot of that psychology here with Trump - don't worry, it'll all be back to normal in 2028. That's dumb. For one thing, you can never go back in time. For another, even if you can stop doing things he started, you can't cure the things he will have done. You certainly can't with a 'moderate' who will defer to the new status quo. It's always the winner of the last fight that wants to encourage moderation in the next one, because that allows them to consolidate their wins. How about after 8 years of AOC, we settle into some moderate governance.
That just isn't true. Many act out of instinct and fear. You're watching too many corporate training videos and it's turning you into a fearful drone. Maybe you were always were one which explains how easily manipulated you are. Here we see the need for vengeance and revenge overriding what needs to be done for the greater good. Policy wise - what did you agree with and disagree with during the Biden admin? Do you think a country can function with mass illegal immigration? Do you think people have taken advantage of the American system at scale? Are you accepting of what pushed moderates away to voting for Trump, or do you want to pretend it's all white supremacy? Hardcore liberals like yourself need to forget about Trump, forget about your sexuality and race... and clearly define... what is it, specifically, the left wants from a policy perspective. [[[And btw, Politico is far left. There is nothing right about it nor would republicans be cheering on Rahm]]]
You want to pretend AOC is presidential material because she has tiktok friends, and being a liberal you can't read the room so go based on social media (which lead to Kamala losing by a landslide) , go ahead. But she's a hype man and routinely goes on stage and does hype man performances. The emotional liberal still thinks it's about likability -- DJT disproves that. People don't like him but voted for him in record numbers - he knows how to lead. Competence. You obsessing about her being an oppressed latina woman just panders to your base. I'd keep her as an on the ground soldier who rails about the white man , while getting railed by one, and start looking at leaders.
^^^crickets People really can't have discussions outside their narrative Obviously a spin job, but a dem that can make salient points? Definite frontrunner if dems can put their racist inclinations behind them.
I'm not a big fan of Rahm, but I will say that I want this presidential primary run to be an open process where we can let as many voices possible enter the discussion. I don't think the DNC, or whomever should go out of their way to shut this guy out if he wants to have a voice again. What he has done in the past is boyscout level stuff compared to anything a Trump regime crook has done just this week. Also... now is actually a really good time for some of the crazier people in the party to get out there. Fck it.
Rahm will have a muscular response to the Rs than what we got from Biden or Kamala. This may sell well with the D moderates and the Independents. We will see.
i cant figure out if its ATW or traderjorge/bigtexxx/mojoman/conqueefstador. saw emanuel on jon stewart last night and he came off very bad. trying way to hard to be funny and he is just awkward. i need to hear more from him, but im liking mark kelly for a 2028 run.
long article. gift link will work for everyone Will the Democrats Go Centrist in the 2028 Election? Rahm Emanuel resists far-left ideas and says Democrats should run on ‘build, baby, build.’ https://www.wsj.com/opinion/will-th...a?st=x6TCDi&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink excerpt: A pair of safe predictions: The winner of the 2028 Republican presidential nomination will have to negotiate the protean wishes of Donald Trump. And the winner of the Democratic contest will have to confront the party’s attraction to socialism and an array of factions that would rather see Democrats lose than compromise: the climate lobby, advocates of open borders and transgenderism, and, above all, the anti-Israel left. I say “confront” rather than “embrace” on the assumption that the Democratic nominee will want to win the election. As of the summer of 2025, the only potential candidate prepared to confront rather than embrace his party’s ideological pathologies is Rahm Emanuel. He hasn’t committed to a presidential run, but he readily admits he’s thinking about it. “I’ve got a mental time frame I’m working on,” he says in a visit to the Journal’s editorial board on Wednesday. “My wife hasn’t tried to divorce me yet, so I’m OK so far.” That Barack Obama’s chief of staff (2009-10) is preparing a run for the Democratic nomination as the centrist candidate demonstrates how far the party has lurched to the left, and how demanding will be the effort to recall it from the edge. Mr. Emanuel’s candidacy might seem improbable, but he has both name recognition in political circles and an impressive political résumé: political adviser to President Bill Clinton (1993-98), representative from Illinois’s Fifth Congressional District (2003-09), White House chief of staff, as noted, mayor of Chicago (2011-19) and ambassador to Japan (2022-25). Although a centrist Democrat by today’s standards, Mr. Emanuel, 65, has a well-earned reputation as a political scrapper. During Mr. Obama’s first term, Andy Samberg of “Saturday Night Live” several times lampooned the chief of staff as a hot-tempered, foul-mouthed intimidator. If Democrats want a “fighter,” as many say they do, they could do worse. Throughout our 90-minute conversation, he levels many criticisms against Mr. Trump and his administration. But unlike other ambitious Democrats, Mr. Emanuel speaks of the president in a way that doesn’t sound demented. “A lot of people have decided,” he says, “and I’m not criticizing them for it”—I assume he’s talking mainly about California Gov. Gavin Newsom and Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker—“but they’ve decided they’re going to be on that end of the field, defining themselves against Trump.” He gestures to one end of the conference table: “They’re going to fight Trump.” Then he waves to the other side of the table. “I’m on this end, about how to fight for America.” Is the Democratic Party ready for a less feral politics? He thinks Rep. Mikie Sherrill’s victory in June’s New Jersey Democratic gubernatorial primary—she is a former member of the moderate Blue Dog Coalition—suggests the party rank and file may have grown weary of wall-to-wall anti-Trump mania. “After 2026,” he says, referring to the midterm elections, “my goal is to own all the real estate on this other side. And I’ll be willing to say things that may be unconventional in the party, and maybe I’ll attract new people to the party. That’s my bet.” What sort of unconventional things? A lot of Democrats want to separate cultural issues from economic issues, he says, but they’re “heads and tails of the same coin.” He switches the metaphor: In 2024, “we were absent from the family room, we were absent from the kitchen—the kitchen-table issues—and the only room the Democratic Party found itself in was the bathroom, and that’s the smallest room in the house.” I gather he refers to the transgender issue. It’s a good line, and I resist the impulse to point out that Mr. Emanuel’s old boss, Mr. Obama, in his last year in office directed schools to allow transgender students to use the bathroom of their choice. Mr. Emanuel talks a lot about housing affordability, but I point out that housing is most unaffordable mainly in the big cities that Democrats run. What’s the solution? His answer, to summarize, is that a lot of regulations are stupid and counterproductive. “What California showed you after the Palisades fire,” he says, referring to the Golden State’s waiving of permitting regulations to hasten rebuilding, “is that a lot of this is flexible. That was a natural disaster, but you could also say unaffordability is a disaster.” Would a President Emanuel support rewriting the National Environmental Policy Act? NEPA is the Nixon-era law that enables federal agencies and private litigants to slow down building projects, or halt them altogether, if regulators deem them to affect the environment in some adverse way. To answer the question, Mr. Emanuel recalls an episode in which, as mayor of Chicago, his government wanted to build a train station on Chicago’s L system. “The property was an empty lot with a lot of dirt and gravel on it,” he recalls. “The city of Chicago did an environmental study, and that took 18 months. The state did one, that took a year. We submitted to the feds, the feds came back to each party with different questions. That’s another nine months. Look, I don’t want to leave office without building this fricking L station. Three years.” Mr. Emanuel proposes a Democratic tag line: “Build, baby, build.” more at the link
