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The “give me Harden over FVV” takes are embarrassing

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by JW86, Oct 24, 2024.

  1. Rocket River

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    He would do what he was coached and told to do
    He not known to buck the coaching . . . or not listening . .that I am aware of

    Rocket River
     
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  2. Air Canada

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    Regardless of what you think... Expectations matter... Context matters... If you don't think so, then you're a casual.
    You're also a massive casual Rockets fan with this take... Cp3 was a shell of himself throughout the 2019 season and in the offs he had the worse playoff series of his career up to that point... He struggled to beat bigs off the dribble after exploiting them routinely in 2018.

    Harden performed very well overall against the Lakers in 2020... Russ his costar that just returned from injury unfortunately was completely garbage.

    Against the Spurs in 2017 we weren't supposed to win that series... And he was horrible in that game 6... He also was the primary reason that was even a series to begin with and why we won the two games we did.

    Up your ball IQ or stop the dumbass yapping.
     
  3. Air Canada

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    You play the dumbass "ignore all context" game... Something common among people who can't analyze the game beyond dumb talking points and narratives... That SA team was better than the Rockets team and were largely favored to win that series.
     
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    This is why I can't have a conversation with them. They're worse than LOF at this point. No sense of reality. They will literally excuse ANYTHING. They want him resigned, not to trade him, but to keep him here permanently.
     
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  5. DreamShook

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    youre crazy. Harden is a notorious pouter and passive aggression farmer
     
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  6. DreamShook

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    Harden would have tried to bait the refs into fouls they were never going to give him and it would have been the rockets downfall. Rockets were whining early, but played like the refs were never going to call a foul.
     
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  7. Asian Sensation

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    Delusional! There was a reason Ime specifically did not want him here.

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  8. Asian Sensation

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    yeah… we’re really missing someone that can consistently create 5+ turnovers per game, dribble the hell out the ball and park Jabari, Amen, Brooks, Green and Tari into the corner and ball watch :rolleyes::eek:
     
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  9. Loneyroy7

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    In 36 minutes tonight, Fred Vanvleet produced 3 points, 3 assists, 1 rebound, and 3 steals on 12.5 percent shooting.

    In 31 minutes last night, James Harden produced 29 points, 14 assists, 7 rebounds, and 1 steal on 52.6 percent shooting.

    Let's drop the rhetoric and deal in facts.
     
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  10. Stephen_A

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    What does we are not supposed to win that series mean? That’s a loser mindset. And you are a loser. Go back and watch that Lakers series you idiot.
     
  11. Stephen_A

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    When have you analyzed anything? Nothing in your posts suggest you analyze anything. Why do you keep using terms like “expected” or “largely favored”. By whom? The media? Who? Why does that matter? What matters is the players on the Rockets that could change that narrative and destiny. And Harden didn’t do shi+ that series. What you said is completely false. You have a loser’s mentality. Prob need to look into that
     
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  12. Stephen_A

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    lol these Hard on for Harden guys probably are the type to blow up their exes phones asking them to come back lmao weak and pathetic
     
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  13. Stephen_A

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    Harden is a loser and will end his career a loser.
     
  14. Loneyroy7

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    Harden averaged 29/7/5 on 50 percent from the field and 38 percent from 3 against the Lakers in 2020. Put up 30/6/5 on 60 percent in the elimination game.

    Facts over fiction.
     
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    I’ve never seen people defend FVV like this before

    Imagine if harden had a game like today, they’d call him washed. Since it’s FVV we’re talking about culture and leadership

    If you don’t think harden is a good fit that’s fine.

    Comparing playoff performances and rings with a guy who was the main focus to a back up pg, who’s done nothing since Leonard left the raptors is a troll argument.

    The more I’ve seen fvv and harden play since the all star break I’m beginning to understand this “fit” they speak of. Harden wouldn’t be as ass so he’d take away touches from everyone else, meanwhile FvV is so ass they just tell him to bring the ball up and give it off.
     
  16. Air Canada

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    You've already proven you're a casual with low ball IQ so it's not surprising you lack basic comprehension... Loser mindest? You and I aren't playing the games dumbass... We can only observe and break down what we see.

    So I'm gonna explain it to you like you know nothing since you essentially don't.
    In every single series.... Going into it there's a team that's the favorite due to either being the higher seed, possessing more talent, etc... These are the teams that are expected to win and yes are also predicted to win by a consensus unless the series is viewed as a toss up, then usually the team with HCA is considered the favorite.... And usually in basketball that's also the team that wins the vast majority of the time barring injury.

    Of course it's possible to overcome and beat a team that you're not favored to beat in route to a ship, but even that is incredibly rare... And the teams that have done usually have a ton of luck or fortune go their way... it's not simply down to one singular superstar player's performance.

    Harden was far and away our best player in that series and it wasn't remotely close... so if he "didn't do ****", then the Rockets were clearly the worse team and you have an irrational mentality... Sorry bruh
     
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    This delusional MF talkin about “facts over fiction”.

    Bruhhh it was never close after we won the first game. Harden had 36 assists to 23 turnovers. In that series. That’s a 1.56 Assist : TO ratio. That is absolutely fcking pathetic for a ball dominant point guard. There’s a reason why we lost that series 4-1.

    That elimination game you’re hanging on to oh so dearly. We lost that game by 23 points. Harden had 4 turnovers in the first half alone. The game was never close. Harden just did what he always does… pad his stats in garbage time.

    Then he threw a b**** fit and quit after the series. It’s been over 4 years, we’re much better off without him and yet you’re still lickin his nuts.

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  18. Stephen_A

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    You likely didn’t watch the game or understood what you watched. For starters he coughed up 5 TO’s in game 2 resulting in 10 pts the other way. Also he gave up several points to guys like Caruso, Morris, and AD by simply not boxing out, missing assignments, or not rotating when he was supposed to. That’s a losing effort. He did this throughout the series and his career. Lazy no effort defense. But you don’t know nothing about that do you? Let’s not forget that terrible game 6. Also 5 plus TO’s game 6 and 7 resulted in multiple points the other way. That’s KPJ losing basketball.

    Watch the games and understand what you are watching before opening your big mouth. Boxscore watch is not proper analysis
     
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  19. Stephen_A

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    Didnt bother reading. No analysis here. Just conjecture. I also don’t associate with losers or people with a losing mentality
     
  20. Stephen_A

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    yep had at least 5 TO’s in 4 games resulting in points the other way. Wood and KPJ were masters of this.
     
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