EARLY WARNING: Jalen Green WILL NOT play well with 2 non-shooters on the floor

You guys are confusing the levels of shooters.

There’s negative shooters who are so bad even at a tiny shooting volume that it clogs the rest of the team’s offense. They shoot 0-20%.

Then you have your non-shooters which is like Steven Adams. They can’t shoot but they are playing an indispensable role like rim protector or elite PnR screen setter. These guys can exist within a highly efficient offense easily.

Then you have your poor shooters. These guys take a decent volume but shoot poorly. You’re talking 30-33%. Like Jalen before this season.

Then you have average shooters. That’s people talking 4-6 3PA and hitting around 35-36%. It could also be someone taking low volume but getting a high % like 37-38% on 3 attempts. That’s normal, these guys make a high percentage of their open shots so they are providing good spacing. Jalen would be in this category but he’s taking twice the attempts of an average shooter so he’s kind of between this category and next.

Then you have your excellent shooters. Here you’re talking about guys who take high volume (6-7+ attempts) and making over 37-38% of them.

Then you have your elite shooters taking huge volume and hovering around 40%.

Then you have Steph Curry.

We lack an elite shooter and we have way too many negative and non-shooters playing big minutes.

 

Yes please, whatever works for your opinion.

 

This is silly. When you pack the paint and the coach says to stay out of crowded areas, you're taking away the most important and efficient shot in basketball away from your perimeter oriented players. You are clearly making excuses for the guys who, along with their defenders, are in between Jalen Green and the basket. If you double the number of people in the way of the basket, you're in denial if you think that won't have an effect.

The responsibility is on those in the paint to lead the way now. Jalen is responsible for hitting his catch and shoot jumpers and some middies - which he does not have the skill to do efficiently. Factually, he can't. There's no reason to "see what happens" no one becomes a good jumpshooter in the final weeks of the season. You're setting him up to **** on him basically. He's a 35% 3PT shooter and a 40-something% midrange scorer, that's exactly what you should expect as a majority of his shots.

Sounds like you're making excuses for Sengun and Amen honestly. Don't be scared, have faith in them and the system. This is flat out an offense based on offensive rebounding and battling in the paint. Our shooting and spacing sucks, our pace is below average at best, we play a bruising half court game. Jalen sucks at that because he's a 6'5 lighting quick and light guard. You want to make him effective in the paint, you have to force people to keep up with him in pace and space - that's standard in the NBA. James Harden might be able to navigate this paint with his old man strength and historically elite handles. Desmond Bane can hit a high volume of 3's at an excellent % without needing to go into the crowded paint. Ja Morant and DeAron Fox would just watch their jumpers increase and their efficiency drop. It's that simple.

Time to accept reality and not build Jalen up to fail an imaginary test. You should expect him to give 110% effort on both sides and make his jumpers at his average rate for the season, get fewer FT's than before we incorporated Amen into the starting lineup and Adams into the bench.

 

To add to your point,

Jalen Green makes 40% of his catch and shoot attempts (3.4 attempts)
Dillon Brooks makes 40.1% of his catch and shoot attempts (5.1 attempts)

Jalen Green makes 32.4% of pull up 3's (4.8 attempts)
Dillon Brooks makes 32.9% of pull up 3's (1.1 attempts)

If you factor volume, Brooks is only a slightly better catch and shooter and that accounts for over 80% of his 3's. That's why his overall % is high, we don't believe in him to take pullups.

Meanwhile, on pull ups Jalen takes over 4 times more attempts to achieve the same efficiency as Brooks. If he took 1 attempts like Brooks, that number would obviously shoot up dramatically.

 

The thread specifically says against playoff teams on average and that there would be exceptions.

If you have his average during all minutes with double big lineup, it would be a good discussion.

 

lol how childish.

Go ahead guys, jump on it for 1 game, just be ready to have it shoved in your face when there's 1 single bad game too.

 

What’s really dumb is you’ve admitted you didn’t read the reasoning and you’re now thinking that I didn’t specifically say he can still get hot.

Sorry I know reading is hard for you but you’re going to have to go read a few paragraphs about spacing to have this discussion with me.