EARLY WARNING: Jalen Green WILL NOT play well with 2 non-shooters on the floor

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/a...LE*23&StarterBench=Starters&dir=A&sort=AST_TO

23 year olds an younger as starters, minimum 25 games, 25 minutes, sorted by ATO ratio

6 Josh Giddey 2.45
7 Jalen Williams 2.35
10 Amen Thompson 2.13
11 LaMelo Ball 2.07
12 Cade Cunningham 2.06
13 Scottie Barnes 2.04
14 Franz Wagner 1.97
17 Alperen Sengun 1.9
18 Stephon Castle 1.89
26 Paolo Banchero 1.6
27 Bilal Coulibaly 1.59
31 Anthony Edwards 1.42
32 Alex Sarr 1.42
34 Jalen Green 1.38
35 Jaden Ivey 1.34

 

@MystikArkitect can correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought he meant something along the lines of, too small and thin to be dominant as a shooting guard/wing, and not skilled enough to be dominant as a point guard.

 

I've always used it, maybe incorrectly, as a sort of in between player usually one too small to play the role hes playing. Sengun is another example. He's a center in a power forwards body. Simply put, Jalen is too small and not skilled enough as a playmaker to perform the job he does. He's sort of caught in no mans land. Doesn't play physical like Ant. Isn't crafty like Ja. Isn't a natural playmaker. And cant shoot.

He really needed to be a way better shooter to have any hope of being more than either a 6th man or a tank commander. Can't be this ball dominant and be as inefficient as he is. To say the next month is the most important month of his professional life would be putting it mildly.

 

Those aren't 2 poles of the same continuum- it's the year 2025, there's just - guards

 

i cannot wait for reed to play 30 mpg

 

That makes sense given that definition, it's just typically used to mean a player who is between 2 different positions.

It's no big deal

 

A big ingredient of Jalens recent awesome play has been consistently getting to the line .

I wonder how that may change in the playoffs.

Anyways , it will be a learning for our whole team , sans a few of the old guys. Even Dillon brooks has been there how many times ? Once ?

A big learning opportunity . Also we will see who we even have on the roster next year.

 

Because of politics Jalen will never come off the bench even though every advance lineup stat says he should.

 

I'll be the first to say it, the NBA is rigged.

 

if a player needs his teammates to be alot better than him, then he's not it

 

If Jalen needs shooters around him, then this is the ideal lineup for him:

Holiday
Jalen
Brooks
Jeff Green
Jabari

See how that works.

 

Early warning: Edwards getting it done.

 

You sound like a Jalen Green apologist who’s already making excuses for him in case he struggles in the playoffs.

 

Maybe they will "rig it" to see Ime go against his old team, Boston in the finals.

 

He -Gid is the best passer and the worst defender, not mutually exclusive.

Give it up to Jaydub who grew as a passer.

 

The bet we're making is that we'll play better playing our two best players.

The bet you're making is that we'll play better if we bench one of our two best players in an attempt to benefit your favorite player.

We'll see how it goes.

 

100% agree

Some players are #1 or #2 options and defended accordingly.....others are
not and fly under the radar.


According to NBA statmuse [as of (04/02/25)]

(24/25) per basketball-reference.com
Centers average 54.2% (FG%).....Sengun is at 49.7% (spends time as point center)
SG's average 44.7% (FG%)..........Jalen Green 42.5% (spends 72% of time at SG)
PG's average 43.6% (FG%)..........Jalen Green 42.5% (spends 27% of time at PG)

*All of their numbers would rise If two or more good shooters are on the court
at the same time.

Udoka will need to sprinkle in Jeff Green and Holiday to go along with Bari/Dillon
In the playoffs.

P.S. in the last 58 games Jalen Green is:
43.8 (FG%) ...between PG and SG in NBA averages.
36.7% (3P%)...shoots about 8 (3's)/gm as designed per system.

 

...that's telling me that forwards generally have better numbers than PGs which tells me your numbers are to some extent impacted by the role you have within the offense - makes sense that the guy who brings the ball up the court has more opportunities to turnover the ball than the playmaker who gets the ball in the post and has minimal dribbling to get to their spot. LaMelo & Cade being at the top just validates how good they are. It's no different than seeing the FG% leaders are all player who play in the paint and incorrectly thinking they are the most accurate shooters in the game. Cool stat, but I think there is two much nuance to directly compare let's say Josh Giddey to Jalen Green....and besides, I'm talking about his improvements as a playmaker. I didn't say he has made strides at keeping TOs down.