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How Trump’s Attacks On Agency Independence Are Boosting Elon Musk’s Anti-Worker Agenda

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  1. deb4rockets

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    How Trump’s Attacks On Agency Independence Are Boosting Elon Musk’s Anti-Worker Agenda

    As Elon Musk attacks the federal workforce, President Donald Trump has taken aim at officials who protect workers—federal and otherwise. In the first month of his administration, Trump attempted to fire, among others, members of the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB), the Merit Systems Protection Board (MSPB), and the Federal Labor Relations Authority (FLRA), even though federal law says those officials can be fired only for cause.

    The structure of these agencies carefully balances accountability to the president with independence that insulates the agencies from rapid political swings or petty vendettas. In a time when petty vendettas appear to be the rule, rather than the exception, those protections matter more than ever.

    The history of independent agencies dates back nearly 150 years to the Interstate Commerce Commission, which Congress created in 1887 to regulate the railroad industry. That commission’s success led Congress to create other independent agencies overseeing other industries that would similarly benefit from predictability and stability.

    Most presidents of the past 150 years have respected these agencies’ independence, and no prior president has even attempted to remove an NLRB member. Trump and Musk seek to break that streak so that nothing can stand in the way of their mistreatment of private- and public-sector workers. But the law is not on their side, and neither is history.


    https://ballsandstrikes.org/law-politics/musk-nlrb-firing-trump-agency-independence/


    I don't see how any hard working Americans could support this agenda. You are supporting letting your bosses screw you over. It's that simple.
     
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    Hate to immediately go on a tangent so soon in a thread but reminds me of my evolution of thought regarding independent agencies. I was sympathetic, at first, to Trumpy assertions that making agencies independent and not allowing the president to fire their directors was a plausibly-unconstitutional encroachment on the power of the executive. But, as I reflect on it more, I don't really think so. All our political structures use 2 or more branches of government in every function. In the case of federal agencies, the president might be the boss, but its Congress that defines its mission with legislation. Its the president's job to see that legislation is faithfully executed. So if the law puts guardrails around the job security of its director for the sake of its mission, it's the president's duty to observe those guardrails in both the letter and the spirit of the law. I'm not a law-talking guy, and if our Supreme Court decides differently, even with the motivated reasoning I've come to expect from them, so be it-- I defer to them. But as a voter and a guy who talks on the internet, I'm not buying this idea that the president can fire anyone logic anymore.

    But on topic: yeah, it's a freakin' kleptocracy.
     
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    Some employers want desperate workers without the costly humane working conditions and environmental restrictions in place.

    It is what it is
     
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    OSHA was fine until private equity decided it was time to rotate to home service/construction. The top .2% control the government, gratz. If you're at the bottom of the 1% you're closer to having $10,000 than you are what Elon has. GOOD LUCK
     
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    You're also assuming that our current Executive Branch gives a damn, or will abide by, anything the Judicial Branch has to say.
     
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    Give the rich tax breaks so they can replace us with machines.

    The rich and politicians are just alley ooping it to each other now.
     
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