Bronny puts up a -36, Mainstream media: Bronny James impresses with 17 points.

he was the 2nd worst player on the court because of a single game +/-…that’s silly

in our game against the Sixers, Tari dropped 21 and 8 but was a team worst -16…FVV dropped 3 points in 38 minutes but was a -7, and Tate dropped 7 points but was a game best +30

so by that goofy logic, FVV was better than Tari that game and Tate was the best player on the court

17 points on 7-10 shooting, even in a blowout, is a good showing for a late 2nd round pick

 

Jabari had 30, 8, and 3 plus 2 blocks that game, but because he was only a +6, it was actually Tate who was better that game…lmao, ok

yup, Fred’s 3 points in 38 minutes was better than Tari that game too because of +/-

y’all will say anything on here

 

Plus/minus is misused on an individual game basis. This thread is one example, but so to was Bronny's last game in which he was plus 15, but played poorly otherwise. I heard people use that stat to support him, so it makes sense people will use this minus game to knock him a bit.

Plus/minus is a good stat to consider over a season along with other stats. Bronny has a long way to go when you look at his entire season. And the truth is Bronny hitting shots and making plays is impressive considering his other NBA games. I'm going to wait and see what happens with him.

 

Someone's gonna invent like an "adjusted individualized +/-" one day and they're gonna take over the league.

 

I dunno, like Regularized Adjusted Plus Minus?


(Explained many places, eg. here: https://www.nbastuffer.com/analytics101/regularized-adjusted-plus-minus-rapm/ )

 

Nah that's just a regression model trying to normalize the numbers to make them better predictive tools but it doesn't ultimately change how the numbers are calculated. What I mean is that the +/- numbers of a player will be weighed against the +/- of the other players on the court with them at the time that they accomplished those numbers. So something like a dominant starting 5 all of whom have very high +/- numbers will have a lower weighted +/- because those minutes were spent with other very good players and so each players' individual contribution may be less significant. Obviously this would require and absolutely insane amount of tracking and data but if anyone ever pulls it off I want my cut for the idea.

 

In the face of millions of people hoping he fails because of some bizarre belief he fails it makes LeBron a failure, I thought it was incredible.

I've never rooted harder for a player I'm not even a fan of. He's slowly proving he belongs in the league. He is one of the 450(ish) best players in the entire world.

 

He is the 55th pick. He is supposed to be a scrub if he has one good game he is already doing great where he was picked at. Majority of 55th picks never see the court and get cut after their first year.

People just cant admit Lebron's kid belongs in the NBA.

 

Quit crying lmao.

 

What does it mean to belong in the NBA?

 

I can't really blame 'em, it's clicks. My mom knows 4 NBA players: Dream, MJ, Shaq, and Lebron (also, I think John Starks--i.e "the short white guy who made shots during the O.J. finals"). But, knowing I follow the NBA, she still asks me from time to time "How's Lebron's son doing?"

 

The real issue is can Bronny James be a PG?

Bronny James before the Draft said he was a SG, even though he is only 6'2. Not smart on Bronny never started to learn PG many years ago in middle school.

I don't think Bronny can be a Starting Level PG next season, Rotation player is outside shot. His lateral defense needs work.

Bronny James I think is a 4 year project, Gary Payton II comparison maybe. Took many seasons for Gary Payton II to develop and be given a shot. Gary Payton II worked hard and played so many G League Games, Bronny James skips G League Games and gets promoted just to watch and practice, workout.

Playing and Staying in the G League Full Time helps his Growth Faster instead of 4 Seasons maybe in 2.5 seasons he is more ready in the Rotation. Playing every game should be developing him faster.

 

He wasn't even a good college player. Just a favor to Leroid

 

Lots of college players cant score 17 in an nba game.

 

we have to remember that he's a defensive king. offense isn't his thing. just checkout this generational block.

 

He wasn't even average

 

55th picks arent meant to be average. Who the hell expects 55th picks to do something on the court?