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Cam Whitmore putting in work

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by kpdark, Sep 12, 2023.

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Is he ready with a bigger role and more responsibilities AKA minutes - this early

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  1. yes

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  2. no

    80 vote(s)
    19.5%
  1. Buck Turgidson

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    NO, this is no longer a developmental year for any particular player(s). Save it for the summer.
     
  2. xiki

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    Tate’s been giving effective minutes. UNC Jeff, too. Holiday? Surprisingly ok. Cam? What’s behind the scene’s screen? What is his destiny???
     
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  3. DaDakota

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    Wrong - this team has ZERO chance of winning a ring, NONE it is flawed, and until it is balanced we will never have one.

    DD
     
  4. GOATuve

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    He's just not good.
     
  5. onreego

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    That’s fair but accountability extends beyond the court too. If he’s proving to not be coachable during practice or other areas, then that’s something to consider. I’m not saying he is or isn’t cause we don’t have that visibility. All we have are assumptions but something has to be going on to have him so buried on the bench. Ime’s not an idiot—we can all see that Cam has the talent and potential to be a high impact player.
     
  6. Buck Turgidson

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    You're all over the place.

    Cam needs to be the 'squeaky wheel' to get what he wants
    But I'm only concerned about the Rockets
    Not individual players like Cam
    But Rockets maybe can't win it all
    Thus they should play bench players to get them...something?
     
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  7. ElPigto

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    You really are stubborn. This team is doing good stuff, why the hell throw it away to develop Cam, a well known selfish player that has a slow release, struggles to breakdown his defender, and overall is not as good as you seem to think. He's had some nice moments this year, but hardly anything to throw away a very good year that team has had. It's crazy that you are "rings or nothing". Very weird for fans to be like that, don't even know why fans that feel like that bother to watch the regular season.
     
  8. daywalker02

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    This year for sure but he should have played more last year ....last year it seemed he had more juice and was better.

    That said, I am all for trading him.....

     
  9. rockets1995

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    The couple of issues Cam Whitmore has is that defensively he is lazy, doesn't run back, doesn't fight over screens.

    Offensively he has blinders on and doesn't see open teammates and doesn't pass them the ball. Cam dribbles into traffic and causes a turnover and doesn't run back or even cares.

    I think it is for the best to move on and trade him to the Wizards for Bilal Coulibaly and Phoenix picks. Bilal Coulibaly is more of a defensive player and plays within a Team offense.
     
  10. DaDakota

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    I have seen him being lazy on D, for sure, he should be yanked for that, talked to and put back in.

    We need more offense.

    DD
     
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  11. DaDakota

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    Let's review.

    1. I believe a player should always do what is right for their own career and I don't think Ime is the right coach for offensively oriented players - thus I think Cam should ask out - he won't get a fair shake here.

    2. I do only care about the Rockets and it bugs me that we have an unbalanced approach

    3. Rockets can't win it all with an unbalanced approach, IMHO.

    4. They should develop players to find out what they have and to increase their trade values.

    Not really hard to figure out.

    DD
     
  12. DaDakota

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    Why do you think it would be throwing it, we might be better, and not have these offensive droughts.

    I have zero idea how good or bad Cam is, I just like his aggressiveness, and hope that it will temper down into a more team oriented one with consistent playing time.

    DD
     
  13. GOATuve

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    He slipped for the same reasons here. Put him in a trade package if he has any value (unlikely)
     
  14. dream2clips

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    #FIFY
     
  15. DaDakota

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    LOL - maybe, you have that control - all you have to do is put me on ignore, and I go away from your timeline - it is like magic.

    Or you can stay around and learn something, your choice.

    DD
     
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  16. glimmertwins

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    Read the room - we are on a 9 game winning streak and are 2nd in the Western Conference - There are like 26+ teams that would love to switch places with us. While I agree we do need better shooters out there, it’s hard to argue with the overall balance of the team.

    I think what Houston is doing right now is learning to play different ways - try double big lineups more, try zones more, get familiar with a terror twin+double big mashup, etc. The work Udoka is putting in right now is NOT player development but rather team development. I don’t think we have a legit shot at a title, but I think what we are doing now is necessary for the maturation and development of the team overall - they have to learn to play different ways to take advantage of other teams.

    It would be nice if Cam were a part of that but the train left earlier in the year and Cam wasn’t interested in getting on board at the time and at this point he is stuck waiting at the train station with Reed. He will have other opportunities to jump on board, but he better be ready and not hesitate next time…and it’s possible that next time is next year. Bottom line, opportunity waits for no one and Cam isn’t necessarily good enough overall as a player for people to hold the train up for him. There is a very important lesson for Cam to learn here- and it’s not necessarily on the court.
     
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  17. DatRocketFan

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    9 game win streak, everybody is vibing along. Ime has players he trust, yet double d isnt happy bc his favorite player isnt getting mins.

    Couple with the fact that we are trying to win our games for seeding purposes.

    Whitmore has not earned his mins, he doesn't play for the team and did not earn ime trust.

    Its wild double d and others are still btching for Whitmore to get mins he does not deserve. Maybe next season but the window has closed for this one.

    If Whitmore isnt able to grasp the simple concept of playing for the team for 71 games, hes not gonna learn it with any of the mins of these last few vital games.
     
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  18. DaDakota

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    I know all that, and am super happy with the 9 game winning streak, mostly against **** teams though, to be fair.

    But I have a longer term perspective, and I believe with Cam some of these horrible starts might be alleviated with his offensive abilities....

    In the end though, we are wasting an asset, someone that might help now, or might be traded for a better piece later, but his value is being trampled by a coach who values JaSean Tate a Gleague level player over him.

    You have to be able to develop WHILE you win.......look at the Rockets - Sam Cassel as an example.....while we won rings he was a rookie.....

    I am not saying he should start, I am saying you should never see Tate over him, EVER, as we need to build Cam's value up and we know his upside is way higher than Tates is...

    And, if Cam is LAZY on D - BENCH HIS ASS....tell him why......and then put him back in to rectify it.......if he is still lazy....bench him......then do it all again in the next game.

    But benching him forever while he watches LESSOR players get playing time is only going to sour a relationship permanently and we lose him before we even know what he is/ or could be.

    And again, for the remedial readers here - I don't KNOW if Cam is good, or bad.....but I believe we should find that out, and should never EVER play Tate over him unless injured.

    And, I believe Ime is a good defensive coach, and a pretty poor offensive coach.....you can't win a ring being unbalanced......you need to have both.

    There is a reason no one takes us seriously in the national media - because we are super young and super unbalanced - when other teams up their energy levels we will struggle because we can't score the ball consistently.

    That is my viewpoint, I guess this is more of a philosophical discussion - some of you may think we are fine - I see cracks in the foundation - and I want to know if anyone on this team can fix them, before we start trading this offseason.....because we can't pay everyone.....

    DD
     
  19. rockets1995

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    Being talked to doesn't matter, he ain't absorbing constructive criticism, Cam Whitmore seriously needs a life changing moment, a humbling experience to grow up.

    Bad Life Experiences happen you try to be a better person and grow.

    The Rockets really need to put Cam Whitmore in Charity events just to see how homeless people live and involve himself in charities. Charity organizations building new homes. I hope Tillman Fertitta does those Charities. Cam Whitmore and more Rockets players need to participate.
     
  20. dream2clips

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    Well said. The highest IQ wisdom you’ve shared on this board.

    Too, I’ve long ago learned how to be a stubborn, naive, uninformed, myopic, perma-complainer. I was a know-it-all teenager 30 years ago. Hence, there’s nothing you can teach me; been there, done your schtick already.

    But I’ll take your advice. Ignored after this reply.
     

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