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The Arrest of Mahmoud Khalil

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by JuanValdez, Mar 10, 2025.

  1. durvasa

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    Perhaps this is the disconnect then. You are making a claim about what the word "Intifada" means, centered around your particular perspective as an American and what you think is worth paying attention to. When people in another continent were peacefully demonstrating, "no one cares". But when, many years later, tensions boil over and we start seeing a huge increase in terror attacks, then it becomes part of the cultural zeitgeist and is worth actually paying attention to.
     
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  2. Rocket River

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    Enslaved those people.
    We are now slave traders

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  3. Reeko

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    innocent people got disappeared and sent to another country to be imprisoned without any due process

    any real American should be alarmed by this
     
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  4. Rocket River

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    Everyone should
    Its insane

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  5. fchowd0311

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    "No one cared when we did it peacefully. Nothing changed"

    Thanks stupidmoniker for explaining the progression from peaceful demonstrations to violence when the oppressed party fails to advance their cause through peaceful means.
     
  6. fchowd0311

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    A lot of "small government" libertarians awfully silent. We hear the silence and remember the silence.
     
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  8. tinman

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    Back in the day if you take hostages you are the bad guys bro
    @jo mama
    @basso
    @Salvy
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  9. Salvy

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    Bruce Willis is the villain to woke people...
     
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    Prince Charming is the bad guy in Snow White remake right ?
     
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    lol, deport @Salvy ASAP because he doesn't know the meaning of woke...just say ****** and be done with it.
     
  12. Salvy

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    Weird, weird, WEIRD
     
  13. tinman

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    @pgabriel
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    R Kelly and Diddy did more for America than this jihadist foreigner breh

    proof
    You see any hate here toward Jews ? No
    Only love and good music

    also aren’t Black people higher on the heirachy of oppressed than Arabs who can afford Columbia tuition ?
    @Andre0087
    Kells came from the south side of Chicago and he played basketball

     
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  14. Salvy

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    Even Hamas respects Diddy.. proof in the video..

     
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  16. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    I made many salient points. Perhaps you lack the intellectual capacity to understand them. For example, see the next sentence.
    No, it isn't. You support Hamas, who explicitly target civilians. You excuse their behavior because they are "oppressed".
    I support killing terrorists. Hamas chooses to embed themselves in the civilian population of Gaza and the people of Gaza choose to let them do so. I think it would be great if Hamas operated from clearly designated military bases far from the civilian populace (like Israel, the United States, England, France, Germany, etc. all do). If they did, Israel could drop 2000 lb ordinance on them with zero civilian casualties. Unfortunately, they choose to use the civilians of Gaza as human shields.


    Okay. And?
    Yes, I think the United States founding fathers are morally superior to Hamas. I believe you will find that to be a widely held opinion.
    That isn't a "disconnect", it is just what happened. If you ask an average American what Intifada means, they associate it with bombings, not sit ins.
    If passive resistance is unsuccessful, it doesn't justify terrorism. I'm sorry to have to be the first person to educate you on morality.
    This "small government" libertarian specifically said that people should suffer no consequences from their speech. Repeatedly. You cannot actually argue against my positions, so you have to pretend I hold others.
     
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    No, it isn't. You support Western imperialism, who explicitly target civilians. You excuse their behavior because it personally benefits your purchasing power for treats and entertainment. I support killing perpetrators of genocide. IDF chooses to use a bad faith argument that it's okay to level civilian populations because their oppression created a stateless group of humans with no means for conventional warfare and like any other historical groups of stateless humans vs conventional war machine, they use non conventional means of violence. Yes, I think the slave holders are not morally superior to stateless humans who don't own slaves and are under military occupation. I believe you will find that to not be a popular opinion if you live within the comfort of the imperial core of a hegomonic global power. That isn't a "disconnect", it is just what happened. If you ask an average American what Intifada means, they associate it with bombings, not sit ins. It's how Americans have been conditioned to b dehumanize Palestinians, Muslims, Arabs etc as part of a process of manufactured consent to greenlight military funding in the region to propagate American hegomony. If passive resistance is unsuccessful, it doesn't justify terrorism. It however is the inevitable outcome. The question of morality comes into play in whom to blame for said group of people to commit terrorism and that would be the oppressors. The colonial settler state dictates the level of violence in a conflict. They set the standard. Not the oppressed stateless group.


    Your inability to holesticslly understand premises and arguments from others from clipping singular sentences and only addressing that aspect of argument is so bad faith you are one of the few people where not typing in paragraphs might force you to actually read someone's entire argument and analyze it in its entirety.
     
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    An appeal to what the average American thinks isn’t a good argument. At issue here is what the people involved in these protests who evoke “Intifada” think. They are far more likely to associate Intifada with diverse forms of protest.
     
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  19. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Why would that be the standard. Are they not protesting to an audience?
     
  20. durvasa

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    Sure, but which audience? Your view of the average American (someone who apparently isn't moved by peaceful protests against a military occupation) is likely not their target audience.
     

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