The “give me Harden over FVV” takes are embarrassing

Hardens vision and gravity with his proficiency hitting guys rolling to the basket with pocket passes would work with any big. The fact that FVV can’t finish at the rim hurts us. Harden would be a massive upgrade.

I would take it one step further, Harden with this collection of players would make us finals contenders.

 

What someone is able to deliver in their role or is expected to deliver in a role determines how much they will get paid, that goes for everything in life guy. That is not a controversial take, that is life. Fred will be paid less annually on his next contract, that means hes not really earning what it costs. There is a cap to manage in sports, so you need to get as much value out of every dollar you spend, it is common sense. In any company, the top performers are paid well, the bottom performers are not paid well, you sound like you make minimum wage so do not understand this concept.

If someone came into your Mcdonalds store where you flip burgers and paid $20 for a meal expecting a gourmet meal, they will be let down. If someone goes into a nice restaurant and pays hundreds for a meal and it is on par with your McDonalds, they will be upset. There is an expectation of quality based on what you pay and how you determine if something is good or not is directly correlated to what it cost you, especially when there is a limit to what you can spend. Just put the fries in the bag, and stick to your day job vs these ridiculus takes.

 

Fred has a game like this every 15 or 20 games.

 

Hope we get rid of him or sign him to a less expensive deal. 40 mil to have this type of performance every 15 or 20 games is stupid

 

How have I missed the "saint" James nickname?

Anyways, dude did not want FVV to hog the headlines tonight. Goodness.

 

Fred has his best game of the year, meanwhile James has 30 points through 3 quarters right now against Memphis lol.

The reality is James looks amazing right now and would make this Rockets team true contenders.

 

Funny ish

 

The problem with this analogy is that the cap doesn't work like normal money. Once you're over the cap, you want to be as close as possible to the hard cap if you want to compete. There's no benefit to being just 1 dollar over the cap compared to $40M over the cap. And once you're over, which we will be regardless of Fred next year because of Jalen and Alpi extensions, you can't bring in new players via trade or free agency without giving up matching salaries so it makes a ton of sense to retain Fred at his option number, even if just as a salary matching chip for a big trade. The McDonald's analogy falls apart because the value of these contracts is so much more than just the on court production. The raw dollar value of the contract is insignificant. What matters is the opportunity cost of the contract, which in the case of the Rockets and FVV was basically nothing considering they didn't want Harden anyway.

 

this is hilarious and so spot on

 

james trick yall every year man.. Harden is great but everyone else will suffer. I guarantee none of them would have made a leap watching james harden iso's.

This current rockets team, everyone picks up the slack if someone is not having a good game. If Harden was on this team he would have been the engine, and if that fails, the whole team is going down with him. Happens in the playoffs too. Harden iso schemes go to die in the playoffs while everyone watches.

also the defense would have been worse. I don't care if the stats show him as a good defender. Harden does not care fr fr.

 

Harden is primed for some entertainment.

 

That kid also nailed Harden’s vertical. I think I saw him get 2” off the ground at one point.

 

Really mister choke in the playoffs every year pass we have a nice young team we will keep what we got.

 

Leonard is coming into form

 

Is everyone else "suffering" on the Clippers right now? Zubac career year. Norman Powell career year. Derrick Jones Jr. career year. Bogdonavic comes to the team and immediately starts playing good ball again.

What you're saying literally makes zero sense.

 

one thing i know about harden. he will make you look stupid in the playoffs for rooting for him.

 

Ahh, the playoffs. Classic Harden response. Good thing you have noted playoff killer Fred Vanvleet instead, who averages 10ppg on 39 percent for his career in the postseason.

Lol.

 

You mean like taking a team with 1 all-star against a team with 5 HOF and all-stars and refs to 1 game from the Finals. A team that no one beat. That kind of stupid.

 

I think Harden absolutely makes everyone better when he's at his best, but if he's not performing at an elite level, the entire team struggles. His style of play relies heavily on him being the focal point, so if he's off, there's no backup plan. It's a single point of failure for the offense.

Now, that may not be the case for the Clippers since they have another proven playoff-caliber player, but in general, that was the case with Harden's Rockets teams.

Today, the Rockets can win even if both of their "star" players are struggling because they are a more balanced team. If you replaced FVV with Harden, would Harden fit into that balanced role where, if he's not "doing everything," the team can still succeed? I think the answer is yes. We saw it in OKC when he was the 6th man. It would take buy-in from both him and the coaching staff to make it work, and this coaching staff likely could make that happen. Given that, Harden on this team would be a significant upgrade over FVV, IMO. But there’s always the chance that he doesn't buy in.

Personally, I prefer a more balanced team over one that’s heavily dependent on a single player.

 

keep holding on to that. lol