Didn't DD defend Von Wafer to death too. Von Wafer, KPJ and now Cam. I think I see a pattern here. Uber athletic guards that have attitude problems seem to be his favorite for some reason. Hope Cam can avoid the curse of DD, I feel like he's better than KPJ or Wafer
Cam could go the path of Christian Wood, plenty of talent but doesn't have the right attitude to be a winning player. Teams my be enticed by his talent and take a flyer on him. If he doesn't change, they will eventually realize it's not worth it. If he is going to change, I hope he does before we trade him.
Don’t be disingenuous. You have made approximately 6,423 posts saying Cam is and/or will be better than Jalen, of which 5.971 were in your usual style of a one-line post that just repeats your well-known opinion on every page in every thread with no additional information or builds. Just because THIS thread is about “maximizing his value to the Rockets” you cannot complain that people don’t know how to read. Your Cam posts are like an annoying advertising jingle - they follow us everywhere and we cannot forget even if we try.
Has it ever been clarified whether Cam Whitmore dropped so much because of his attitude, or because of his purported injury risk? Because if it's the former, then it's the exact risk that the team took when they drafted him. If it doesn't work out, then it's still ultimately a good gamble with a 20th pick. On the bright side, he is nowhere near as bad as Royce White, and that was a 16th pick.
ah yes. the 20 year old who has tunnel vision is better than the leading scorer on the #2 seed in the western conference. these hot-takes would make even ESPN cringe
Jalen green works hard, plays every game and has shown tremendous improvement while playing for the team. Yet double d seems to hate that sht and always want to trade him away so players with bad attitude like kpj and Whitmore can play. This is the same man who hates harden iso playstyle and wants team ball. Yet keeps liking player like c. Wood, kpj and Whitmore. Man is a walking talking flip flopper
I think Cam is stronger than Jalen, and better at drawing and accentuating fouls because of his strength and explosiveness. Sort of like how Corey Maggette would just barrel into people and the defense would HAVE to foul. However, once he gets to the line, he's a lot less consistent than Jalen is, even with Jalen's free-throw shooting cooling off a bit after the all-star break. In terms of effort, attitude, and even basketball IQ...I think Jalen clears Cam right now by leaps and bounds. It's funny because people used to say Jalen had "personality issues" but he's really just a soft-spoken dude who seems to work really hard whereas Cam seems to legit have some attitude issues. I've defended Cam SO MUCH over the last season but he has to start showing something in the few minutes he gets. That's how he'll earn more.
To be fair to DD, when he planted his flag on Cam the dude was playing out of his mind and looked like a top 3 pick in the draft. Which begs the question if the DD curse is a real thing.
I'm just glad he's not a fan of a certain political icon who's crushing it right now and doesn't need that negative DD mojo bringing him down.
This is spot on. Cam has the physical build to be a force in the NBA. He sometimes uses that to his advantage. But can't simply do that 100% of the time. His pre-draft concerns have reared their heads in the NBA. Amen has been out. Tari has been out. Jabari has been out. And he can't get on the court. Why? We've had players like this before. Spanoulis and that other Euro I forget. He has been incredibly disappointing this year. I've been a vocal Jalen critic for the past two years (you need to show something by your 3rd year. I was singing Jalen's praises for 2 years and stopped at year 3) but he deserves a ton of credit for keeping his head down and just improving slowly. You're starting to see that in his play. Took longer than I'd hoped. Im not out on Cam but he needs to grow up. We'll see what he looks like next year. Just going to write this off as a learning year and we'll see if he improves.
I think Cam and Reed have been on quite a tight leash this season, probably due to the teams success of being a top team in the West. Young guys like that need a place to make mistakes so they can learn from them. Gain confidence then make a run at being a consistent player in the league. But their on and off minutes has not contributed that well to their development. It's kind of like when James Wisemen was drafted by the Warriors or Darko by the Pistons. Who knows if they would of been busts if they had actually went to a bad team that wasn't caring about winning yet.
How much everyone is attacking the character of a 20 year old in this thread is insane. This guy is far from who he is going to be, as a person and player. He may or may not fit our long-term plans, sure, but to label him as this or that when he hasn't gotten a real chance to prove anything is wild. If any of us were one of the best 20 year olds in the world at our profession and all the others were getting opportunities and thriving in their positions, while we were fetching coffee for higher ups all day, we'd probably be pouting too. Basically - I can understand why Cam is disgruntled, but I can also understand why Ime and company are playing less talented vets over him this season.
Its good u can see why ime isnt playing cam. If everybody understood then this thread would be dead. Unfortunately the cam fans don't and they keep btching about why Cam isnt getting enough mins and hes better than Jalen green which is stupid as fk.
I think it's fair to talk about what we see, comment on what we know about coaching basketball from a personality/human perspective, and at the same time admit that there is no evidence to suggest it means anything about his character as a person.... especially at 20 years old. Unless I'm missing something, what we do see is the body language, and the way Cam carries himself.... quite physically. Like down to his facial expressions, and how he sometimes slowly gets back on offense even though it rarely impacts him getting into position once the play starts. Then there is what we know about coaching.... really any sport... and how some of that small stuff actually does impact who coaches like to play. But I think the attacks on his character are just simply asinine. Nobody knows what kind of person he is, or knows if he genuinely is a bad teammate, or hard to coach behind the scenes. However I don't want to overly discount the small stuff that we can see because we all that have played before know that basketball or sports in general can be weirdly human in that way. The small stuff like strutting back on offense, or defense does matter at all levels... and how someone taps into and reacts to that as a coach can impact a players life really at all levels. I think it just really to me really highlights the importance of coaching in terms of mentoring vs the X's and O's, and winning every game at all costs. Maybe the issue is really at the lower level during his highs school, AAU, and college years. To me that's really where the small stuff that can impact you down the line needs to get corrected so it doesn't become a distraction in a high stakes high pressure big money stage like the NBA because there isn't an expectation of mentoring at this level. It is about winning now, and you really can't blame Ime for not being that guy even though it would be great if he was for the sake of getting the best out of prospects like Cam.
