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Trump fires FTC’s only two Democrats

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by deb4rockets, Mar 18, 2025.

  1. Kemahkeith

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    I agree with you. And its bad optics to a hard core left of center individual.
    For the MAGA folks this is what they feed on. It's tenderloin until it happens to one of their own.
    Firing a leftie has no bearing to them. They would rather "OWN" a lib than have that person be the one who helps land their 757.

    I think government needs to be trimmed, but not to the point of not being able to function correctly as a department.

    I also believe that it's just a reallocation of funds from a paycheck each week to a federal welfare stipend.

    Folks have to live; we will all pay for it one way or another.
     
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    Sure but if this flies, the Federal Reserve is next. He's clearly testing the courts to see if they'll rule that presidents can override congressionally mandated staggered terms. This is more unitary executive nonsense but if it flies, then the entire Federal Reserve can be fired next. It also means that the concept of independent agency governance is more or less dead.

    In the CFPB case, they ruled that presidents can fire the CFPB director (despite fixed terms that overlap presidencies) because CFPB operates with a single director and such a structure allowed a president to hamstring future administrations entirely. They didn't rule that presidents can unilaterally fire commission members from agencies with staggered commissioner terms. So this will very clearly go to the Supreme Court and if successful, the concept of independent agency governance will die overnight.
     
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    The unitary executive rabbit hole is pretty fascinating.

    I fall somewhere in the space that says UET is constitutionally correct, but probably not the best idea in practice.

    But hey, if we can get rid of the Federal Reserve that'll be a win regardless.
     
  4. jo mama

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    he said this a couple days ago...
    not only does he not care about the constitution, he is a straight up authoritarian fascist at this point.
     
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    he just does what he wants wow
     
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  6. No Worries

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    The definition of "dumb democrats" appears to be anyone who supports the US Constitution. amirite?
     
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  7. No Worries

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    Salvy could get deported to El Salvador, having committing no crime ... and ... enjoy his stay there in one of their fine prison cells ... for the rest of his soon-to-be short life.

    And the only ones giving two ***** about his fate would be the Libs that he owned.
     
  8. Kemahkeith

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    For cruel and unusual punishment, they will make him sit through the new Snow White film.
     
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    Some would argue that the federal paycheck is just welfare with a job title. If fired employees can’t find a job in the private sector, they probably aren’t very good at their jobs and are justifiably losing their jobs. People that are upset about having to come up with 5 bullet point status reports are a case in point. My time in corporate America was completely based on meritocracy and at least monthly status reports were common. Anybody with any experience dealing with the federal bureaucracy knows the level of inefficiency is much higher than with successful private sector companies. How dare taxpayers expect our government employees perform at a high level.
     
  10. Kemahkeith

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    Thank you for responding.
    It seems like no one really wants to talk about the real issues and the problems that arise from both sides.
    Government is bloated. But no one cared until now, and there is real pain as a result
    Where do we stop with the cuts?
    What are the options for those who lose their jobs, go on the dole?

    This whole thing is a catch 22.

    It's like that funny looking mole on your arm.
    You know it might be cancer, but you don't want it checked out for fear of the reality that it might be cancer, so we do nothing about it.
    Kind of like my Irish family. If you don't discuss things that are uncomfortable, they don't exist, until you die from that mole.
     
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  11. Salvy

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    Hol up, this isn't about due process. This isn't even about crime for woke liberals.

    This is about a strong and unshakeable belief that immigration is okay even if illegal. There is no line between criminals and non criminals, there can't be. They turn their head on murderers and rapists because it makes immigration look bad. They can not accept that there are very bad people crossing the border because in that instance their entire theory crumbles.

    They rely on deportations being racist and non justified despite them actually being a part of America for a very long time even under Obama and Biden.

    But let's not get sidetracked, because the leftists rhetoric is that Trump is racist they bunch deportations of all kinds into the same category even if they are in fact rapists and murderers.

    Look, even El Salvador knew where the criminals were. These criminals create a repetoir and a history, there was intelligence on tren de Aragua that Democrats hid because it was inconvenient.

    Id be shocked that the aholes sent to Cecot in El Salvador are innocent and mistakenly deported.

    Let's get serious, these dudes are bad people. Woke people crying for them are dumb as hell feeling bad for them. F*ck them dudes...
     
  12. Salvy

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    I don't have a criminal history and the people sent to Cecot are known gang members...

    Maybe you could strike a deal with Trump so he can send a couple of them dudes to your house and you can take care of the poor little gang tatted up angels. I'm sure it'll be fine and they are future doctors and lawyers...
     
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    Time to move to canada
     
  14. No Worries

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    You will sleep better at night believing this lie.

    I f*cking double dog dare you to google that sh*t, if sleep won't be your issue.
     
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  15. jo mama

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    time for you to move to russia. you are clearly more aligned with their system of government than ours.
     
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    It is SO completely out of line with what the job ACTUALLY was for the first 150 years of the country's existence that I don't think that is what the founders intended, for the group who prides themselves with being totally obsessed with what the founders intended. It might be a solution that you can fit into the equations, but I'm fairly confindent that it wasn't the plan from the dudes in the frilly clothes.
     
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  17. Salvy

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    I sleep on a mattress from mattress firm...
     
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  18. Kemahkeith

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    I used to sleep like a baby on a Superior water bed.
    Iykyk
     
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  19. DonnyMost

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    Right.

    When the executive basically was only in charge of defending the country and collecting tariffs it made a lot more sense.

    I think that's the actual long play for the federalist society types. UET only makes practical sense if you shrink the size of the federal government, because otherwise you end up with a massively overpowered executive branch when the government starts expanding its responsibilities.
     
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  20. subtomic

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    Corporate America and the federal government have two entirely different missions - they're not comparable. The former exists to create value for shareholders while the other exists to provide services for citizens.

    Many jobs done by people in the government don't have a private sector equivalent (and vice versa). Many government employees are SMEs on topics that rarely if ever cross the desk of the private sector. So asking them for "5 bullet points" is pointless - a fool like Elmo wouldn't even understand those bullet points, let alone be able to judge the individual's usefulness or level of performance.

    And if you really believe corporate America is entirely a meritocracy, then I suspect your time there was extremely short.
     
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